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yancywsmith yancywsmith at sbcglobal.net
Wed Nov 1 15:01:18 EST 2006


The relevant text from Instructor 1.8 in unicode form is:

1.8
  οὐδὲν ἄρα μισεῖται ὑπὸ τοῦ  
θεοῦ,ἀλλ’ οὐδὲ ὑπὸ τοῦ λόγου· ἓν  
γὰρ ἄμφω, ὁ θεός, ὅτι εἶπεν "ἐν  
ἀρχῇ ὁ λόγος ἦν ἐν τῷ θεῷ, καὶ  
θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος". Εἰ δὲ οὐ μισεῖ  
τῶν ὑπ’ αὐτοῦ γενομένων οὐδέν,  
λείπεται φιλεῖν αὐτό.

b-greek beta code:
OUDEN ARA MISEI hUPO TOU QEOU, ALL OUDE hUPO TOU LOGOU; hEN GAR AMFW  
hO QEOS, hOTI EIPEN "EN ARCH hO LOGOS HN EN TWi QEWi, KAI QEOS HN hO  
LOGOS." EI DE OU MISEI TWN UP' AUTOU GENOMENWN OUDEN, LEIPETAI FILEIN  
AUTO.

translation:
Therefore nothing [of creation] is hated by God, but neither [is it  
hated] by the Logos. For both are one thing, [that is] the god (i.e.  
God), since it said (John 1:1 paraphrased) "In the beginning the  
Logos was in God, and the Logos was God." And if he does not hate  
anything of what comes into existence by him, it follows [that he]  
loves it.

comment:
The use of "hEN" is very similar its appearance in John 10:30 EGW KAI  
hO PATHR hEN ESMEN

The "one thing" of the two spirit-beings God and the Logos (however  
it is conceived) is a neuter abstract. The "hEN" makes sense if you  
realize that "God" or "the god" is not a proper noun but a common noun.

Best wishes,

Yancy Smith
yancywsmith at sbcglobal.net
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817-361-7565



On Nov 1, 2006, at 12:26 PM, George F Somsel wrote:
" hEN GAR AMFW" -- is this correct?

george
gfsomsel
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----- Original Message ----
From: Octavio Rodriguez <octaviors at gmail.com>
To: B-Greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 8:50:22 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] Question about How Clement uses the cardinal hEN  
in "The Instructor"


Clement in "The Instructor" book I, chapter 8 said:


    hEN GAR AMFW   hO QEOS OTI EIPEN EN ARCH O LOGOS HN EN TW QEW KAI  
QEOS HN
hO LOGOS

Here the cardinal "hEN" is neuter, my question is why didn't Clement  
use the
masculine "hEIS" to be in agree in gender with  "hO QEOS"?

Is the the translation "For both are a unity [namely] God" better  
than "For
both are one [namely] God", regarding the difference between hEN and  
hEIS?

Best Regards
Octavio Rodriguez
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