[B-Greek] Question on DE

Barry nebarry at verizon.net
Thu Mar 30 11:58:01 EST 2006

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From: "David Mooney" <dmooney at atmc.net>
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Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:43 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] Question on DE

>I have had a discussion with a bible believer who believes the trial of Jesus 
>occurred before the day he was crucified. He claims the sixth hour of John 
>19:14 is day one but the third hour Jesus was delivered up to be crucified was 
>the next day. He claims that since DE was used before Preparation of the 
>Passover in John 19:14 then it is understood that the Preparation of the 
>Passover was the NEXT day and not the same day as the prequel.<<

These kinds of discussions give me a headache.

> He writes:
> "When DE is used with times of the day or divisions of the day it simply means 
> "near to" or "close to" or "just before" that hour or time of the day. When it 
> is not used then the reference is to during that time." End of quote
> Is this true? I had never heard of this until this year and I have heard it 
> from two different sources that balance the seeming contradiction between John 
> 19:14 "the sixth hour" and the "third hour" of the synoptics. Thanks for your 
> help,<<

Well, I had a look at the lexical references, and could find nothing indicating 
this.  I don't have a copy of Denniston's *Particles*, maybe something in there? 
He needs to supply proof of the assertion, remembering that the use of particles 
can be highly idiosyncratic with certain authors.

N.E. Barry Hofstetter
Adjunct Faculty, The Center for Urban Theological Studies
         Philadelphia, PA
Visiting Faculty, Reformed Theological Seminary
         Washington, D.C.

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