[B-Greek] 2 Tim 1:3 APO

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Tue Mar 7 05:34:49 EST 2006

>     On Mar 5, 2006, at 8:24 PM, Mitch Larramore wrote:
>>> What does this phrase APO PROGONWN modify? And how
>>> would it be translated? It appears on the surface to
>>> be something like "from (my) parents/forefathers." Is
>>> there some temporal element with this phrase, as in
>>> "from the time of..."?

I shall have to stick with the judgment of this construction that I  
expressed previously. I think that

(a) APO PROGONWN must be construed with LATREUW;
(b) EN KAQARAi SUNEIDHSEI also construes with LATREUW, indicating the  
HOW of the service/worship;
(c) LATREUW APO PROGONWN is a compressed expression indicating that  
the service/worship offered is habitual or traditional as a heritage  
from forefathers: "I serve/worship and continue to serve/worship  
habitually as did my forefathers.
(d) I continue to think here that LATREUW has the function of a  
progressive perfect: "I have been serving continuously."

AT Robertson, (Word Pictures):

"Whom I serve from my forefathers (hWi LATREUW APO PROGONWN). The  
relative ω is the dative case with LATREUW (see Ro 1:9 for this  
verb), progressive present (I have been serving). For PROGONWN  
(forefathers) see 1Ti 5:4. Paul claims a pious ancestry as in Ac  
24:14, Ac 26:5, Ga 2:14, Php 3:4-7,"

On Mar 6, 2006, at 10:32 PM, virgil newkirk wrote:
> APO has two basic senses:
> From, as in since some time.
> Secondly... that which is something, that came from something.
> Here in verse 3 APO PROGONWN must be referring not to "since" but  
> to the
> realities...the clean ones that are those things that characterize the
> fathers.

I really have no idea what sense of APO PROGONWN is being suggested  
here. Is it that the prepositional phrase EN KAQARAi SUNEIDHSEI is  
being understood to characterize the PROGONOI?

Carl W. Conrad
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