[B-Greek] Phil 1:29 (yancywsmith)

Muz themuzicman at gmail.com
Tue Jun 27 14:13:02 EDT 2006

I did some research using the Perseus site's Liddell and Scott Lexicon, and
one possible translation is "obliged".

Might we engage "It has been obliged to you for Christ's sake, not only to
believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake" ?


I inserted "the opportunity" because of the naturalness of the phrase
in English "to give some one the opportunity to do something." It
isn't so natural to say, "to you has been granted to believe, etc."
So, the grammatical reason for inserting it is a target language
reason, not a Greek grammar reason. In Greek "to you can be granted
to do something or the other" in English we usually give someone a
chance/opportunity to do something or the other. I think the
theological pay dirt is in the verb ECARISQH, in effect, God had
granted them grace not only to believe but to suffer. BTW, I don't
think "a grand opportunity has been given" is not a bad translation
of ECARISQH is not too far off the mark.

BTW, I garbled my previous answer, it should have read
> Infinitives are used either adverbially (purpose, result or something
> like that) or as nominals (subject, adjective, object, object of a
> preposition). In this case, both infinitives TO ... PISTEUEIN and
> TO ... PASCEIN are being used as nouns, specifically as appositonal
> extensions of the subject of the passive verb ECARISQH, which is this
> case is TO hUPER CRISTON. Neither of the infinitives is the object of
> the prepositions EIS and hUPER, rather, AUTON and
> are the
> objects of these prepositions. So, a pony translation would be: "To
> you has been granted the [following thing] on behalf of Christ, [that
> is] not only the in him to believe but also the on behalf of him to
> suffer." Or better English: To you has been granted on behalf of
> Christ, not only [the opportunity] to believe in him but also to
> suffer for him."

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