[B-Greek] 2Co 13:9 KATARTISIN

Oun Kwon kwonbbl at gmail.com
Sun Jun 18 11:02:54 EDT 2006

Thanks to all!

I have received for a while ago a reply from Yancy.  Since it has not
been broadcast to the list, I think I should forward to the list along
with my reply to him at the bottom (some wording has corrected).

Oun Kwon.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: yancywsmith <yancywsmith at sbcglobal.net>
Date: Jun 17, 2006 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 2Co 13:9 KATARTISIN
To: Oun Kwon <kwonbbl at gmail.com>

I think that the word for "maturity" would probably be TELEIOTHS. But
in 2 Cor 13:9 KATARTISIS might be thought of more nearly as a process
by which one comes to a state of preparedness to pass a test i.e.
through training, education, or discipline (good glosses of
KATARTISIS) or the process by which one is restored to health,
readiness, etc, restoration. Paul's parting exhortations in 2 Cor
13:9 plays on this word and might be translated, 13:11 Finally, my
best wishes to everyone. Get yourselves ready, comfort one another,
have the same outlook, be at peace, and the God of love and peace
will be with you."

Yancy Smith
yancywsmith at sbcglobal.net
5636 Wedgworth Rd.
Fort Worth, TX 76133

This was in P.S. of my reply to Yancy


There happened to be TELEIOW nearby in 2Co 12:9. I have strugged
with the same in Mt 5:48 TELEIOI (adj), which mostly translates as
'Be perfect (as your Father is) perfect'.

Being hypersensitive to 'perfectionistic' connotation, I
have been looking for something I can put in the place of 'perfect'.
Initially 'mature' and then 'whole-hearted' became my choice.  However,
this simply could not be the answer, because this could not be
applicable to God as well. Then, mercifully, I have re-discovered NEB
reading ''with no limit", and "(God) knows no bounds". [Long time ago
 it was not accepted intuitively at first - felt too much paraphrasing, but
how I was wrong!]  This does make a sense also in 2Co as well.

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