[B-Greek] 2 Pet 3:9 and MAKROQUMEI EIS hHMAS

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 15 13:09:34 EDT 2006

Robertson in his _Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research_ notes
  7. Compared with EPI, PARA and PROS. The growth in the use of EIS is shown by its appearance where EPI or PROS would be expected in the older Greek. Cf. ERXETAI EIS POLIN (Jo. 4:5), where the point is not ‘into,’ but ‘to.’ So 11:31, hUPAGEI EIS TO MNHMEION. In 11:38 D has EPI, not EIS. So in Mk. 3:7, ANEZWRHSEN PROS THN QALASSAN, DHP have EIS. Cf. Mk. 2:13, à has EIS for PARA and in 7:31 àBD have EIS, not PROS.
  Robertson, A. (1919; 2006). A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research (596). Logos.

Craig J <newsgroupstuff at gmail.com> wrote:
  I was looking at 2 Pet 3:9 and the phrase MAKROQUMEI EIS hHMAS, and noticed
that MAKROQUMEW used EIS here (maybe only time in NT) though more often it
seems to be used with EPI (at least 4 times I think: Matt 18:26, 18:29, Luke
18:7, James 5:7; also PROS in 1 Thess 5:14).

I am wondering if there could be any significant difference between meaning
of EIS and meaning of EPI with MAKROQUMEW in 2 Pet 3:9? EPI seems to
indicate those with whom someone is being MACROQUMIA. Is it possible that
EIS could just mean 'for the sake of' or 'to the benefit of' without the
hHMAS actually being the ones responsible for the MACROQUMIA?

In otherwords, could the phrase mean "God is longsuffering (with others) for
our sakes" rather than "God is longsuffering with us"? Is the former
grammatical possible and feasible?


Craig Johnson
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