Dave Smith (REL110, 211,212) rel21x at charter.net
Mon Jun 5 17:38:12 EDT 2006

I find DILOGOS in 3:8 and Polycarp to the Philippians 5:2. Both contexts are
pastoral and both refer directly to the office of deacons/ministers. In
these two context, it is a negative requirement. i.e. deacons/ministers are
not to be this way. When I first noticed this post, I recalled the
prohibitions in the Epistle of James and very often in Hermas to not be
DIPSUCOS, double-souled or doubting/uncommitted. Living according to divine
reason (LOGOS) is a prominent theme as far back as Justin Martyr, and may
reach back through the Johannine school and Philo, in religious circles.
Justin wished to trace it to Plato and Socrates. DILOGOS characterizes one
who is not serious about matters at hand (SEMNOS 1 Tim 3:8). Both Polycarp
and 1 Tim. speak of money, shameful gain in one and love of silver in the
other. It seems much like a person who can not make up his mind, whether to
peruse the ministry for personal gain or the glory of God. In this, it may
be parallel to DIPSUCOS. The verbal form, DIALOGISMOS carries the idea of
doubt, and so does DIPSUCOS.

These are my preliminary thoughts on this word and, I hope, a springboard
for the insight of others.

Dave Smith
Hudson, NC
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
To: "B-Greek B-Greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Cc: "Ron Snider" <sarasotapt at verizon.net>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 15:36
Subject: [B-Greek] DILOGOS

> Let's try this again with the original subject-header.
> Forwarded for: Ron Snider <sarasotapt at verizon.net>
> Date: June 5, 2006 1:18:34 PM EDT
> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Dilogos
> I am looking for some information on how those living in the 1st
> century would have understood the term DILOGOS.  It is only used once
> in the Bible and I would like to get a feel for how it should be
> translated today.  I have the usual lexicons BDAG, LN, Thayer, UBS,
> and Friberg.
> In Xenophon, it appears to mean simply to repeat oneself, to say
> something twice.  In what way is this to be understood as a negative
> quality?
> Thanks in advance,
> Ron Snider
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