[B-Greek] Mt. 28:17 hOI DE EDISTASAN

Albert Pietersma albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca
Tue Apr 18 10:56:30 EDT 2006

Sorry, George, to have to  demur. You take us back to where we started. 
I took the argument to be lexicographical in nature, even though both 
VE and DE are structure words rather than full lexemes. Thus the 
question is one of semantic range. Therefore, does the notion of 
contrast fall within the semantic range of VE? Hence would one include 
it in a dictionary entry as a semantic component? The answer is clearly 
NO.   Would one at times translate VE into English as "but" (etc.)? The 
answer is YES. Does that then means that VE includes the notion of 
contrast? The answer is clearly, NO. All it means is that  one draws on 
the larger context rather than specifically on VE.
   On Apr 18, 2006, at 10:03 AM, George F Somsel wrote:

> One last note regarding the snippet above.  I would not say that "We" 
> in
> Hebrew "marks" a contrast (pace above) but I would say that it can be
> used EITHER as a continuation or as a contrast (which is usually
> understood from the context).  It requires "translating by the seat of
> your pants" so to speak.  DE, on the other hand, does MARK a contrast 
> to
> some extent though usually not a complete disjunction.
> george
> gfsomsel
Albert Pietersma
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