[B-Greek] Mark 6:20

Ann Nyland accuratebibles at ozemail.com.au
Fri Jul 11 21:30:49 EDT 2003


AKOUW generally takes a genitive of person and accusative of things heard.
Thus
HKOUSA THN TOU hRHTOROS FWNHN
I heard the orator's voice  
HKOUSA SOU ADONOTOS
I heard you singing
See Heb. 3:7, Rev.19:1 and so on.
Ann Nyland



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pastor Mark Eddy" <markeddy at adams.net>
To: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
Cc: "b-greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Mark 6:20


> Thank you for your quick response. I guess my real question is this: can AKOUW take both a genitive object
> of the person and an accusative object in the same sentence? I have found plenty of examples of one or the
> other, but I haven't been able to find both kinds of object for AKOUW in the same verse. Perhaps this is
> because of what you suggest.
> By the way, I was not quite correct in my original message. R.C.H. Lenski does seem to treat POLLA
> adverbially (modifying AKOUSAS). It is the Expositor's Greek Testament that seems to treat POLLA as an
> object for this participle.
> Before I heard from Dr. Conrad I tentatively translated this sections as: "And after hearing him at
> length, he was perplexed, and gladly kept hearing him."
> Mark Eddy
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
> 
> 
> > At 2:07 PM -0500 7/10/03, Pastor Mark Eddy wrote:
> > >Mark 6:20 ends with 3 clauses describing Herod's reaction to John the Baptizer:
> > >KAI AKOUSAS AUTOU POLLA HPOREI KAI HDEWS AUTOU HKOUEN.
> > >My question is: with which clause does POLLA belong?
> > >The Majority text takes it as the object of the following verb: POLLA EPOIEI
> > >Most translations of the N-A text seem to take POLLA as an adverb,
> > >modifying the following verb HPOREI.
> > >But R.C.H. Lenski in his commentary takes POLLA as the object of the
> > >participle AKOUSAS.
> > >This last options makes most sense to me, but why don't any of the
> > >translations take it that way?
> >
> > I think the reading of POLLA as adverbial with HPOREI is the only natural
> > way to read the text as you've given it, which is to say, as the NA27 text
> > prints it: AKOUW normally takes a genitive of the person, so that AUTOU is
> > the object of AKOUSAS AUTOU and also the second AUTOU is the ojbect of
> > hHDEWS AUTOU HKOUEN. You ought also to take into account the fact that
> > AKOUSAS is aorist ptc and in its position surely carries the sense of
> > antecedent circumstance, while the verbs that follow are in the imperfect:
> > "After hearing him, he continued to be very much (POLLA) puzzled (about
> > what to do) and he continued to hear him with pleasure. Even if that first
> > POLLA were to be taken with AKOUSAS, it's not an object but an adverbial
> > usage: "after hearing him a lot." I wouldn't say that's out of the question
> > but I think the word-order favors taking that POLLA with HPOREI.
> > -- 
> >
> > Carl W. Conrad
> > Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
> > 1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243
> > cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
> > WWW: http://www.ioa.com/~cwconrad/



More information about the B-Greek mailing list