[B-Greek] Gen 32:30 GOT (32:29 in English) and demonstrative

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Wed Jan 29 09:07:36 EST 2003

At 4:55 PM +0300 1/29/03, Iver Larsen wrote:
>> Could someone tell me whether there's any native Greek reason for the
>> construction that appears (among other places) in Gen 32:30:
>> In other words, is this just a case of the translator rendering
>> more or less
>> word-for-word and thereby producing a construction that would
>> never occur in
>> Greek otherwise? Or can the demonstrative actually be understood to fit in
>> terms of normal Greek grammar?
>> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>In a similar construction in Num 11:20, the Greek translator left out the
>demonstrative, probably understanding it as just a strengthening of the
>As you say, it looks like a very literal translation here in Gen 32, so it
>is probably borderline Greek. Could it be understood as: "Why are you asking
>this (thing), i.e., my name?
>It seems too odd to me to construe it directly with TO hONOMA MOU.

But I suppose it's possible that the LXX spoke "Cockney" Greek, like
Catullus' Arrius, who renamed the "fluctus Ionios" as "HIONIOS." ;-)

Carl W. Conrad
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