[B-Greek] Hebrews 11:19 Redux

Albert Pietersma albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca
Mon Jan 27 17:52:39 EST 2003

Jim West wrote:

> At 04:46 PM 1/27/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >I know this list os more grammatical than theological, but sometimes the two
> >are so closely intertwined that it is hard to distinguish. So, I am trying
> >to keep this post as grammatical as possible. I had already asked about
> >logizomai in Heb. 11:19. I understand that it can mean anything from  "to
> >think" to "to reason or deduce."  Since this verse is in the midst of a
> >context of pistis, is not reasonable to conclude that the pistis described
> >is related to logizomai? In other words, that faith is reasonable and
> >rational? Thanks, Matthew R. Miller
> william lane, in his *word biblical commentary* on hebrews notes that the
> middle voice of logisamenos places the stress on the subject.  i.e.,
> abraham. and translates *abraham considered*

But since the standard form of the verb is m-p (middle-passive) can any special
meaning be ascribed to Heb 11:19 based on  the m-p form of the verb??

> what is it that abraham considered?  that God was able to raise up isaac if
> he so wished.  this "conviction" made it possible for him to receive him back.
> so, yes, i think it is quite alright to say that logizomai in this context
> can be understood as you say.
> best
> jim
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Albert Pietersma
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