[B-Greek] hETEROI KAKOUPGOI in Luke 23:32
Harry W. Jones
hwjones2 at earthlink.net
Wed Feb 19 08:33:24 EST 2003
Hello Barbara and All,
It all really depends IMHO on how hETEROI translated. Having KAI as *also*
wouldn't really help if hETEROI is translated as "another, of the same
kind" if you see my point.
I would also note that Rogers&Rogers(Linguistic and Exegetical key to the
Greek New Testament) gives "other, of a different kind" for hETEROI in
> [Original Message]
> From: B. D. Colt <babc2 at attbi.com>
> To: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: 2/18/03 8:16:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [B-Greek] hETEROI KAKOUPGOI in Luke 23:32
> On 18 Feb 2003 at 20:49, bertdehaan at gosympatico.ca wrote:
> > >
> > > From: "Harry W. Jones" <hwjones2 at earthlink.net>
> > >
> > > This is a very interesting question and the answer seems to be in
> > > the meaning of the word hETEROS(hETEROI). Looking in BDAG page 399
> > > at entry #1 it says,"pert. to being distinct from some other item
> > > implied or mentioned, 'other' " We find hETEROI listed under 1. b.
> > > Beta. which gives Luke 23:32 and translates KAI hETEROI KAKOURGOI
> > > DUO as "also two others, who were criminals" In other words the two
> > > others were distinctly different from Jesus.
> Wouldn't the 'KAI' add to the effect of separating the KAKOURGOI from
> our Lord? "Also others . . ." No authority for this; it's just the
> way it feels to me.
> > 23:32.-HGONTO DE KAI hETEROI KAKOURGOI DUO SUN AUTWi
> > ANAIREQHNAI-.
> > I understand how hETEROI can function as a noun here with KAKOURGOI
> > DUO giving additional information. Would translating it like;" also
> > others,namely two criminals, were led away with him..." do justice to
> > this? One more question: How would it have to be written if hETEROI
> > functioned like an adjective modifying KAKOURGOI (this is possible is
> > it not?)so that it would read in English something like: "Also
> > different kinds of criminals were led away..."
> Barbara D. Colt, mailto:babc2 at attbi.com
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