[B-Greek] RE: Trench's Synonyms

Glendon M. Gross gross at xinetd.ath.cx
Tue Feb 18 09:43:28 EST 2003

I have also felt that the voluminous postings from BDAG that I have seen 
tend to shed very little light on a specific passage, primarily because 
they can entice one to opt in to a statistical view of the text.

Wouldn't it be fair to say that reading the local context of a passage 
is likely to give one more information than referring to some massively 
inclusive reference of Greek usage?   I realize that such references are 
valuable in order to give us a bird's eye view of how a word was used, 
but isn't it fair to say that the passage itself (in Greek, of course) 
will shed more light on its meaning than we can get from using 
statistical methods to analyze individual words and grammatical 
relationships between words in the passage?

I don't mean to minimize the work of those who have labored long hours 
to produce these types of inclusive references, but just to voice 
agreement with what you have said.  To me, the reference work cannot 
ever provide "the last word" on a passage.  I still try to leave myself 
open to see new things in a text itself, without disregarding what the 
reference works tell us.


Glendon Gross
Amateur Greek Student

Mark Wilson wrote:
>> But I do not agree that BDAG should have the last word! That is very 
>> useful
>> lexicon and it has an important contribution to make, but it is not
>> infallible.
> I hope the reason many have undertaken the study of Greek is so they do 
> NOT have to rely on Trench, BDAG, etc. Using secondary sources, such as 
> BDAG, should only be used as a pointer. Secondary sources inform us / 
> point us to the ORIGINALS.
> One reason I decided to learn Greek is so I would not be dependent on 
> sources such as commentaries, lexicons, etc. What is the point of 
> learning Greek if we are going to stop at lexicons? Is that learning 
> Greek? Can we do any better than say, "Well, that's what BDAG says." 
> (Like those who know no Greek and say, "Well, that's what this 
> commentary says.")
> Bear in mind I have a long way to go myself, but that is the direction I 
> am headed. Am I heading in the right direction?
> Mark Wilson
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