[B-Greek] Genitives in Rom. 2:4

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Thu Feb 6 15:43:52 EST 2003

At 9:41 AM -0800 2/6/03, Byron & Linetta Knutson wrote:
>Thanks Carl.  I thot of that possibility, but saw no direct statement in the
>the lexicons I checked.  I should have checked the examples more closely.
>Is there a source somewhere that lists al the NT words that take an object
>in something other than the Accusative?

There may be, but this is something that I learned bit by bit over the
years: that verbs of sensation often take a genitive object, verbs of
remembering and mental action often take a genitive, verbs in KATA- often
take a genitive, verbs that intransitive in Greek, even if transitive and
taking a direct object in English, will normally take a dative complement
in Greek, etc. These are things one doesn't really learn from memorization
of lists so much as from doing lots and lots of reading and taking some
pains to consult the reference books/lexica and get answers to questions
that don't find answers directly in the context.

>Is there a possibility of having some of the header materials deleted in the
>new digest format?  Here is a typical example of what I mean:

I think your point is clear, which is why I've deleted most of your lengthy
catalog of examples. I don't think this is something that our list software
can help with: it adds the distinctive list-headers, the others are added
either by yours or others' mail-programs and by each link in the internet
as it sends a message on from one station to another. You may, however,
have something in your own mail program, as those of us who use Eudora
have, that represses or HIDES what Eudora calls "blah!" headers; I've fixed
my settings so that I usually don't get more than Date/From/To/CC/ and
Subject. But that's a matter of the settings of each individual mail
program. If your mail isn't filtered through a good mail program, then you
probably have headers running far longer than a messaage.

>Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 14:21:19 -0500
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Carl W. Conrad
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