STOP! Re: 1 Cor 3:15-17: Assurance of salvation or warning

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at
Fri Mar 29 07:01:12 EST 2002

At 9:18 PM -0500 3/28/02, Polycarp66 at wrote:
>In a message dated 3/28/2002 8:13:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>moon at writes:
>"As through fire" was an idomatic way of saying "just barely",
>"by the skin of one's teeth". Paul is not assuring the one who built
>poorly (i.e, though you will lose your reward you will still be saved),
>warning - though you may attain salvation, it will be by the skin of your
>teeth as it were.
>You certainly know how to be provocative by your choice of subject title.  As
>an old Calvinist, I could say something; however, I will 'bite my tongue' and
>avoid the theological comments which are not appropriate for this forum.

Let's call a halt to this right now. While it may seem reasonable to ask
about academic credentials of a book's author, we ought to steer clear of
characterizing theological or doctrinal positions taken by an authorPLEASE
let's avoid this and any and all theological discussion. Let me cite #5 of
the FAQ:

"5. How can we keep discussion informative and constructive?

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these convictions bear directly upon how the Biblical text is to be
understood. At the core of our discussion, however, is not what our
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Carl W. Conrad
Co-Chair, B-Greek List
Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
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