Comparitive Degrees/Welcome

Lloyd bemaseat2001 at yahoo.com.au
Wed Oct 24 10:24:18 EDT 2001


Dear Alex,

Thank you for your welcome.  It is great to see an international forum such
as B_Greek well represented by Australians.  Thank you for your remarks in
regards to my studies, and they are going well.  I also have had the
privelege to contact both Carl Conrad and Iver Larson earlier, who have
welcomed me and subdued some initial fears I came in with.  In answer to
your question on Greek courses available, yes I am unable to receive any
teaching from my current studies only.  If you could please forward me the
web address or E-mail address for Tyndale that would be greatly appreciated.
I'll follow up on those opportunities with gusto.  I have also received
information on studying Greek through the internet which is also attractive.

My best regards to you, your family & your daughter whom you mentioned who
is fortunate to have an open hearted father.

Lloyd Dawson

Townsville, Queensland

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex / Ali <alexali at surf.net.au>
To: Lloyd <bemaseat2001 at yahoo.com.au>
Date: Sunday, 21 October 2001 20:53
Subject: Re: [b-greek] RE: Comparitive Degrees


>Dear Lloyd,
>
>My daughter just told me that I'm spending a lot of time on BGreek, and
>she's right and I don't have much time to chase up the details of your
>questions on comparative degrees at the moment (see below).  But I did want
>to say Hi to a fellow Aussie - it's great to see you on the BGreek list.
>Hope your studies are going well.  If you don't get an answer, I'd suggest
>you resubmit your query in a day or two, as the list is usually
terrifically
>helpful in answering the sort of question you put.  Carl Conrad is
>incredibly knowledgeable and a generous human resource and he used to and
>probably still does keep track of questions with a view to ensuring that
>they're answered at some stage.  As I say, I can't give time to your query
>now, but maybe you could tell me which grammars you use; if they're the
same
>as I use we might be able to find the information together.  Thought of
your
>question this morning when I did my Bible reading and came across an
>adjective in the positive form that was actually being used as a
>comparative.
>
>>Can comparitive degrees apply to anything outside adjectives?
>Yes, adverbs, eg quickly, more quickly, etc, in Greek, as in English.
>
>>is the degree
>>identifiable within the construction of the said adjective (eg. MEIZONA -
>>MEGISTA) as used by Paul in 1 Cor 12: 3 (comp. degree)1
>
>Found this hard to find; I'm looking at 1 Cor 12:31 - MEIZONA is
>comparative, as identified by the form.  Where things get tricky is that
>sometimes one form is used with another meaning, eg Greek might express
with
>a comparative what we'd express with a superlative.  And sometimes the
>superlative form is used in what the grammar books call an elative sense,
>where there is no explicit comparison, eg where a word in the form
>"quickest" is to be taken to mean "*very* quick".
>
>Hope this will be a little start for you.  Keep up your language work - it
>is a terrific asset in understanding God's word.
>
>>Unfortunately, I do not have access to
>>formal education in koine Greek which I personally feel is disheartening
>>since out of it flows our Theology.
>
>I'm not sure whether you mean by this that it's not available through the
>college you're at; if that's the case, you *can* nevertheless get access to
>formal education in koine Greek. You could do correspondence work through
>Tyndale College which is based in Sydney, for example.  If you'd like more
>info on that possibility, let me know.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Alex Hopkins
>Melbourne



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