Isaac or Esau?

Rev. Bryant J. Williams III bjwvmw at com-pair.net
Wed Aug 22 04:30:47 EDT 2001


Dear John:

The previous verse has Esau as the subject of comparison with one who is a profane person (BEBHLOS). The "GAR" at the beginning of verse 17 and following METANOIAS are explanatory and causal (although I could see how the latter GAR is also explanatory). Furthermore, the context is referring back to the Genesis 26:29-34 and 27:30-40 incidents where in 27:34 & 38, Esau, who was truly "a profane person," "cried with a great and exceeding bitter cry...lifted up his voice and wept."  The NIV is misleading here, because Heb 12:17b is translating EUREN to mean, "to bring about." 12:17b should be translated as "for (because?) a change of attitude (METANOIAS) was no place found." The verse is stating that "no change of attitude could be found in Esau." It is not stating that Esau "could bring about a change of mind" as if Esau had been wanting to repent.  Esau is being searched for 'any' sign of repentance (change of mind/attitude) by the Lord, and 'none' was found. What an indictment against Esau. The Christian, who is to seek peace and holiness, is to continually take care of the grace of God.

En Xpistw,

Rev Bryant J. Williams III
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dr. John S. Waldrip 
  To: Biblical Greek 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 3:00 PM
  Subject: [b-greek] Isaac or Esau?


  In Hebrews 12.17 is found the phrase:

  METANOIAS GAR TOPON OUX EUREN

  Question:

  Do you think this refers to Esau or to Isaac?

  Why?


  John S. Waldrip
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