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  • From: robin dudley <rodudley AT hotmail.com>
  • To: "Typical Girls: Women in Punk/Post-Punk/Undergrou" <typicalgirls AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [TypicalGirls] THE SLITS REFORM FOR NEW SHOWS
  • Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:37:04 -0800

i have seen pics of kate at the roxy with viv's name on them. the harlesden gig with the clash (1st gig) was with kate, as ditto the screen on the green and at least one roxy gig. i HAVEN'T seen the Roxy 1977 album. perhaps you are thinking  of 78, which would have been after the white riot tour...i don't remember when the roxy shut down. argh, now i see the point of keeping diaries - too late! there was a slight similarity in their looks i guess...


From: misschief AT earthlink.net
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:29:19 -0600
To: typicalgirls AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [TypicalGirls] THE SLITS REFORM FOR NEW SHOWS

Robin, 

Autumn 1977?  But, I'm quite sure it was Viv that played all the Roxy dates from Jan. 1977 to April 1977. I saw all those shows and took lots of pictures. The photos of Ari and, I think, Palmolive on the Roxy 1977 album are mine (not sure Palmolive pic is on there, haven't looked lately at the album, I'll dig it out).

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this . . I guess memories can also be pretty slippery when you go that far back!


On Nov 16, 2008, at 7:08 PM, robin dudley wrote:
annette;

would've been autumn of 77 - i think! dates are a little slippery when you go that far back.


From: misschief AT earthlink.net
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:12:32 -0600
To: typicalgirls AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [TypicalGirls] THE SLITS REFORM FOR NEW SHOWS

Robin,

Thanks for filling me in on the Slits' background, I do appreciate learning the facts from someone who obviously knows more than I do about Kate and her many contributions to the group! Just for the record, . . . when did Viv replace Kate?

(I'm not arguing lineups or anything, just want to know this to add to the history you have given us).


On Nov 13, 2008, at 9:31 AM, robin dudley wrote:
actually, when the slits "burst upon the scene"  with that name you considered so amazing, they were palmolive, ari, kate and tessa. viv came in AFTER it appeared to be a going concern. before that she did not want to know and actually scoffed at the "publicity gimmick" of an all-girl band.

true to most people the "original" lineup includes viv, but the name, much of the first set's music, and first few gigs which caught people's attention, included and were created with kate playing a very active part. viv was nowhere to be found. the fact that she made a good replacement and played on the white riot tour does not change that fact. so maybe we should just stop talking about original lineups cause its not going to happen!


From: misschief AT earthlink.net
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:37:16 -0600
To: typicalgirls AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [TypicalGirls] THE SLITS REFORM FOR NEW SHOWS

After more thought I would like to amend the last sentence of my previous post to read:

"Sincere thanks, and kudos, to the men and women who helped them refine, progress, make great albums and keep the band alive today . . . ."



On Nov 12, 2008, at 1:42 PM, Annette wrote:
When the Slits burst upon the London scene in January 1977-- I am talking about when they were first splashed across the fronts of newspapers (their name was horrifying, of course, to the populace; never, ever, and maybe forever, had any band borne so disturbing and incredible a name); when they were mainstay players at the Roxy and absolutely integral to shaping Punk Rock; and in general, when hanging about for months making their music, mischief and being well, the Slits, as everybody knew them, they were 4 girls. Their names were Ari Up, Viv, Tessa, and Palmolive. For most of us there, this was the Slits and will always be the Slits.

Sincere thanks to the men who helped them refine and progress and make great albums, but the Slits, to us, were Ari Up, Viv, Tessa, and Palmolive.


On Nov 12, 2008, at 1:36 AM, weasel walter wrote:
>>> and for that matter viv was not the original guitarist so its all moot!!!
 
ha ha ha. this is a good point. they'd have to get kate korus back.
 
ww


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