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  • From: Jeremy Blosser <jblosser-smgl AT firinn.org>
  • To: sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] Grimoire Lead Results
  • Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:52:06 -0500

On Mar 23, Remko van der Vossen [wich AT yuugen.jp] wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 09:33:27AM -0500, David Kowis wrote:
> > On 03/23/2011 06:35 AM, flux wrote:
> > > Remko van der Vossen (wich AT yuugen.jp) wrote [11.03.23 16:44]:
> > >> Euh... Is it me or do I count more hashes than voters...
> > >>
> > >> Remko.
> > >
> > > I believe that's because votes were hashed separately for each
> > > candidate, so if you voted for both (in whatever order) you would have
> > > gotten 2 hashes as your "receipt". Unless I'm misunderstanding
> > > something...
> > >
> >
> > At least one person voted for both in a specified order, so yeah, that's
> > why they don't line up.
>
> How is this order reflected in the results then? Currently it seems that
> any candidate on the ordered list simply gets a +1, so then what's the
> point of the order?

Because candidates only get the +1 in order. So if you vote:

1: Candidate A
2: Candidate B

Then on the first tally round, Candidate A gets +1 from you, Candidate B
gets nothing. If at the end of the first tally round no candidate has a
majority of votes cast, then the lowest vote getter is dropped and votes
are tallied again. If Candidate A was dropped, then your vote for
Candidate B would come into play.

Granted the results could stand to be reported in more detail, the ordering
is relevant and should be reflected as first choices, second choices,
etc...


> Btw, you say at least one, if there are more than one then there should
> also be abstains, should they not also be counted? And if there aren't
> any then there should be exactly one ordered list, no?

A true abstain is someone who didn't vote for any of the choices. "At
least one" person voting for both candidates in order does not imply any
abstentions.

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