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  • From: George Sherwood <pilot AT beernabeer.com>
  • To: sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] coreutils vs glibc
  • Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 10:27:33 -0600

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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 15:22:26 +0100
Ladislav Hagara <ladislav.hagara AT unob.cz> wrote:

> Dne 5.12.2010 5:38, Robert Figura napsal(a):
> > George Sherwood <pilot AT beernabeer.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 06:36:22 +0100
> >> Robert Figura <rfigura AT aubergine.zwischengesicht.de> wrote:
> >>> i recently tried a clean rebuild off the current 0.10.0 iso using
> >>> test grimoire. I encountered something wich seems to be explained
> >>> by this:
> >>>
> >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/+bug/552816
> >>>
> >>> In short: A recent in glibc update reveals a bug in coreutils
> >>> which makes cp -p fail. As some spells (upstream installers) use
> >>> cp -p and friends to install, this will at least cause install
> >>> failures for db and python...
> >>>
> >>> Is there a reason why coreutils is still version 7.xx whilst the
> >>> first of the 8.xx's is more than a year old?
> >>>
> >> Bug #13873 was found during a coreutils update long ago. I have
> >> been running coreutils 8.6 and 8.7 for a month and a half now and
> >> I haven't run into the issue yet. With the bug that you found, it
> >> sounds like it is time to update coreutils. I will try to do it
> >> when I get back in town this week if some one doesn't beat me to
> >> it.
> >
> > I finally got around to just try updating the version in
> > coreutils/DETAILS - and it worked fine here. That was with castfs
> > and current devel sorcery so i'm not sure what the chances are to
> > get problems under other circumstances.
> >
> > So i'm happy and feel no need to beat you :-b
> >
> > Didn't really grok the connection to bug #13873 tho... Nevermind.
> >
> > Thanks and Kind Regards
> > - Robert Figura
> >
>
>
> Hi,
> I have just tried coreutils 8.7. I am sorry, still the same problem.
> We still have castfs as only optional spell. If users don't use castfs
> coreutils 8.x breaks installwatch logging. See bug #15559
> (installwatch no longer tracks hardlinks!
> http://bugs.sourcemage.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15559).
>
> With coreutils 7.6 if I re-cast e2fsprogs I see
> $ gaze install e2fsprogs|grep mkfs
> /sbin/mkfs.ext2
> /sbin/mkfs.ext3
> /sbin/mkfs.ext4
> /sbin/mkfs.ext4dev
>
> With coreutils 8.7 if I re-cast e2fsprogs the "gaze install
> e2fsprogs|grep mkfs" shows nothing. :-(
>
> We need to update installwatch and adjust sorcery to this new version
> (http://bugs.sourcemage.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13873#c22) or make castfs
> required spell.
>
> PS: I just tested with castfs, e2fsprogs contains STAGED_INSTALL=off
> in DETAILS so "gaze install e2fsprogs|grep mkfs" still shows
> nothing. :-(
>

We really do need a fix for this lingering problem. I don't think
making castfs required is the fix due to the spells that aren't working
with castfs. Castfs is also somewhat unmaintained and really doesn't
seem to have a future moving forward.

For looking at the two bugs:

http://bugs.sourcemage.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13873

http://bugs.sourcemage.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15559

we require fixes to both sorcery and the grimoire.

George Sherwood

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