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  • From: "Pete Gasper, Gasper Family Farm" <farmer1@gasperfarm.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Certified Naturally Grown: An alternative label toorganic
  • Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2013 21:51:26 -0500

Yes well, America is well into the corruption stage of things and the infection runs from top to bottom.

Pete

On 09/01/2013 06:48 PM, John D'hondt wrote:


I have little faith in this label. I've known of several instances of
farmers using the label while not certified or admittedly engaging in
practices contrary to the cert and the organization did nothing.
That would most definitely not work over here in Europe. The organic
inspectors were very sharp and extremely competent. And really, it is not
that difficult to establish that fiddling would be going on. You only hve to
look at the natural vegetation to see if any weed killers were used. Turn
over a stone and you expect to find worms or worm holes and a slug or two.
The fiddlers would not be too intelligent anyway. And the penalty for being
found out would easily bancrupt the farm.
Principles not paperwork. In the end inspections, paperwork, and
certifications cannot make up for what is essentially a moral problem.
What
we need is personal integrity amoung farmers and a willingness to act on
them even if not profitable and be open about ones shortcomings.
And I agree with that of course.
John
Pete

On 08/20/2013 07:04 PM, John D'hondt wrote:
Makes a lot of sense to me. We were certified organic for 14 years and
the
price for certification went up year after year but our income didn't. We
could see the time coming that we would need to borrow money to pay for
certification. The paperwork involved also was no longer doable. That
took
about a month's work for a person every year.
I know better than most the dangers of using unatural chemical ways and
we
eat our own produce after all. So of course we grow natural.

John, no longer certified

SCHAGHTICOKE, N.Y.: Certified Naturally Grown: An alternative label to
organic | Business | NewsObserver.com
http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/17/3114829/naturally-grown-an-alternative.html
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