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  • From: mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] How to expand permaculture
  • Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:22:25 -0500

I've been working to get permaculture installed on our campus at
Organic Valley and I think a real opportunity that often gets
overlooked is to approach the commercial sector and make a case for
alternatives to traditional high imput one dimensional corporate
landscaping.

~mIEKAL


On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net> wrote:
> We haven't had any other nibbles on this tangent of the recent thread on
> a national gathering. But maybe if we spin this off on its own thread
> we'll get some takers.
>
> So first we have to start with thoughtful observation. Maybe make a
> list to begin with? By "expand permaculture" I think we mean
> "permaculture missionary work," spreading the word, encouraging others
> to learn and practice permaculture design, etc. If we mean something
> else, then we should get that definition worked up early too.
>
> Methods presently in use to encourage the spread of the knowledge and
> use of permaculture design.
>
> (1) PDCs
> (2) Short workshops (day, weekend)
> (3) Websites
> (4) Permaculture Activist magazine (are there other permaculture print
> publications in the US?)
> (5) Permaculture books in libraries, bookstores, and available online
> (both to buy and to read)
> (6) Permaculture listserv discussions like this one (it would be fun to
> compile a complete list)
> (7) Permaculture social media (FB, Google+, Linked-in, Klout)
> (8) Permaculture posters, flyers, small flyers and pamphlets, and other
> ephemera
> (9) Permaculture volunteer efforts (such as what you are doing in Native
> American areas and others are doing in inner-city neighborhoods)
> (10) Permaculture websites
>
> What else is going on out there?
>
> Bob Waldrop, OKC
>
>
>
>
> On 7/16/2012 9:53 PM, Cory Brennan wrote:
>> Good point Bob, let's do it! I'm game. It certainly is something that
>> needs to be accomplished...
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net>
>> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
>> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 5:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Fwd: Nth American Conf
>>
>> Why would we need to travel to do this? If this is what we want to
>> achieve, why couldn't we do this, well, right here and right now for
>> example?
>>
>> It could be an exercise in cooperative permaculture design --
>> observation, evaluation, design work, implementation.
>>
>> I've always thought that some kind of a large project, operated in
>> cyberspace, involving permaculture people from "all over the map" would
>> not only be fun, we would all learn a lot from it and it might even do
>> some good.
>>
>> Bob Waldrop, OKC
>>
>> On 7/16/2012 3:23 PM, Cory Brennan wrote:
>>> I would say it would be worth the travel miles if we actually walk away
>>> with a plan to expand permaculture in multiple areas much more quickly
>>> than it is happening and actually execute it. Then it would be worth it.
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net>
>>> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
>>> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:57 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Fwd: Nth American Conf
>>>
>>> Why do we think that this event would be worth the damage the travel and
>>> etc associated with it would cause the earth's ecologies? Haven't we
>>> done enough harm to all with our sense of entitlement to all the travel
>>> we can manage to pay for with dollars? Especially those of us who are
>>> privileged First World people?
>>>
>>> The Union of Concerned Scientists recently released a book on global
>>> warming and transportation/travel is one of the three major contributors
>>> to the emissions driving climate change. They say one imperative of the
>>> future is that we need to drive less and travel less. If we do travel,
>>> the kindest-to-the-earth method of travel is to take the bus.
>>>
>>> So in the spirit of harm reduction, at minimum if this event occurs it
>>> should be in a city easily accessible by bus travel, and travel by air
>>> and automobile should be actively discouraged by the organizers. If it
>>> becomes a regular thing, it should not be an annual event, but instead
>>> should be at most once every four years.
>>>
>>> Bob Waldrop, OKC
>>> http://www.bettertimesinfo.org/permaculture350.pdf -- Hacking
>>> permaculture in 350 words
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/16/2012 6:41 AM, venaurafarm wrote:
>>>> Steve Hart
>>>> Ecology Architect
>>>> skype: stevenlawrencehart
>>>>
>>>> Nth American Permaculture Conference ?
>>>>
>>>> Hey guys...not so long ago there was discussion on a likely Conference
>>>> for all Nth America...whats happened to that energy ? has anyone picked
>>>> up the challenge?, taken an initiative and moved it forward ? Skeeta,
>>>> are you still in there ? I reckon its time to take the bull by the horns
>>>> and jump in the deep end.
>>>>
>>>> At the International Conference in Jordan, IPC10, Scott Pitman and I
>>>> discussed future international structures in a workshop. There has been
>>>> waned discussion since but with Cuba's IPC11 just around the corner the
>>>> agenda will gain more development. One thread is to realise the
>>>> continental regions of the world. Then to consider each region having
>>>> conferences. Europe is already well advanced on this with their 12th
>>>> Conference happening in Kassel this year 1-5th August. Central America
>>>> has had a few. No other region to my knowledge has gone there yet.
>>>>
>>>> Something worthy of development eh what ?
>>>>
>>>> Steve Hart
>>>>
>>>>
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