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  • From: Neil Bertrando <neilbertrando@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Biochar
  • Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:29:49 -0800

>From my brief research, the most practical applications of biochar are in
the high rainfall tropics where leaching and high biomass turnover rates
present fertility management concerns.

Does anyone have details, info, or suggestions re: applications of biochar
in cold-hot arid climates?

thanks,
Neil

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 3:32 PM, John D'hondt <dhondt@eircom.net> wrote:

>
> Well Dieter look at who is making the money. I don't have even a book to
> sell with all my misgivings about charcoal. I simply can not call it
> biochar
> for that is an oxymoron to me since char is far from bio.
> If you wan't to make a profit then join the hype wave and that is what I
> see
> happening.
> john
>
> > John, I understand your point about challenging "established facts". In
> > fact, I'm a Taoist at heart and feel that the truth is no longer
> competley
> > true as soon as it is expressed. This is really pushing it to an
> extreme,
> > but there is some truth to it in that no matter how noble and
> > well-intended a cause may be, as soon as it turns into established dogma,
> > it will invariably produce all kinds of negative effects.
> >
> > But I guess, biochar advocates would argue that is the the critics who
> are
> > full of dogma because they refuse to see the benefits of biochar.
> >
> > Dieter
> >
> > --- On Sat, 11/19/11, John D'hondt <dhondt@eircom.net> wrote:
> >
> >> From: John D'hondt <dhondt@eircom.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Biochar
> >> To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> >> Date: Saturday, November 19, 2011, 6:56 PM
> >>
> >> Take some other examples then Dieter.
> >> For 50 years fat was bad and salt was to be avoided and
> >> vaccinations were
> >> good and cholesterol was bad. Most still believe this even
> >> if the medical
> >> literature is absolutely full with articles prooving the
> >> oposite and many
> >> alternative doctors know better. Only when they put their
> >> heads up too high
> >> they get chopped off by the establishment.
> >> On the other hand at one time blood letting was THE cure
> >> all in medicine and
> >> it was an established fact too that prefrontal lobotomy was
> >> good for general
> >> anxiety. How many juveniles were castrated because their
> >> parents had seen
> >> them masturbate and feared their child would go blind? The
> >> list is endless.
> >> I find established facts very dangerous things even if many
> >> say that a
> >> million lemmings can't be wrong.
> >> Other than that our takes on charcoal are much the same.
> >> john
> >>
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  • Re: [permaculture] Biochar, Neil Bertrando, 12/01/2011

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