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  • From: Jerry Lehman <jwlehman@aol.com>
  • To: fuwafuwausagi@muchomail.com, mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [nafex] storing scions the rabbit way
  • Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 10:56:09 -0400

Good morning Fluffy one,

That seems like a lot of work especially if you're going to store scion material several months. I don't believe your problem was the temperature fluctuation as much as fluctuating as high as 52°. That simply is too warm especially if you're storing Prunus for a few months and other species for much longer.

Refrigerators that have their freezer compartment on top typically do the condensing in the top and have an opening in the rear bottom of the freezer compartment in which cold air slowly filters to the bottom keeping it cool. To lower the temperature in the refrigerator section the adjustment merely increases the size of the opening. What I did was took one of those refrigerators and set the thermostat to the coldest setting to see what the temperature was in the frigerator section. I then physically cut away part of the opening increasing the size so that more cold air would flow to the bottom. I then watched the temperature to see what the minimum was and kept increasing the size of the opening until the fluctuation was from about 32° F to the point where the thermostat would kick the compressor back on which was about 38°. So the temperature fluctuates between 32 to 38° with the very bottom remaining near the 32° point. Similar to what you did, I placed a couple of jugs of water on the bottom shelf of the door to help stabilize, reduce the fluctuation time, the temperature. The upper freezer compartment now typically sets about 10°F which is plenty cold enough to store frozen pollen extended periods. In fact I stored some frozen actively growing persimmon tips for DNA work and the DNA was still active after a year storage.

Jerry

On 4/18/2015 9:45 PM, fuwa fuwa usagi wrote:
The fluffy one stores scions:

Gang, I thought I would share my new scion storing system.
I have been very dissatisfied with attempts to use a refrigerator to store scion wood. In fact last year I acquired a small dedicated refrigerator for storing scionwood alone. Unfortunately I found out the temperature seemed to fluctuate significantly and tended to average 44-52 degrees. The only way to stabilize the temperature was to add bottles of frozen water.
This year I tried a different approach and I am extremely happy with the results. I purchased a standard picnic cooler for my endeavor. Next I set aside 16 20 oz soda bottles and filled them 4/5 of the way with water and frozen them. Once frozen I put five in the bottom of the cooler along with a damp towel and then added my wrapped and sealed scion wood, and then placed 6 bottles on top (the cooler is tapered slightly. I placed some cardboard beneath the cooler and draped two old rag rugs across the top. I then place 5 bottles of water in the freezer. I was amazed by the results. The cooler held the wood at very close to freezing, 29-35 degrees very consistently. My intention was to rotate 5 of the bottles each day, but found unless it was 65-70 plus and I was going in and out the cooler all day, it was unnecessary, and merely rotated 5 bottles every 3 days or so (I did not experiment with going longer, I simply rotated the bottle when then were about 1/5 to 1/4
liquid). Even while grafting, with the cooler outside, I found all I had
to do was rotate 5 of the bottles a day, and sure enough the temperature
stayed in the low range. Every 3 days (while grafting) I rotated the bottle
bottles, which were almost always 4/5 frozen (as the cold sinks downward.
Interestingly it got cold enough that some of the toweling froze stiff.

I found this system beyond satisfactory. It is cooler, more humid, with a
far more stable temperature than a refrigerator, plus there was no issues
with worrying about what else was in the cooler that might abort the scion
wood. In all the years I have kept scion wood, it never looked in better
shape.

I intend to improve the system for next year by creating a wrap around
cardboard insulator, to increase the R value of the cooler. The rugs work
well, but I just wanted something a bit tidier.

tfb

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