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  • From: lee reich <lreich@hvc.rr.com>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX]Ribes odoratum 'Crandall'
  • Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:51:50 -0500

You can learn more about Ribes odoratum and other black currants (R. americanum, R. nigrum, R. aureum) in my book Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden. This is what I wrote about Crandall...

The most widely grown clove currant originally was a wild plant, discovered by R. W. Crandall of Newton, Kansas, in 1888. 'Crandall', as it was called, had the virtue of bearing tasty fruits up to three-quarters of an inch in diameter. Unfortunately, many plants sold as 'Crandall' were seedlings, so were variable, leading some writers to report the flavor as good, others to report "tough skin, unpleasant flavor" (fruits on my plants have tender skins and, to me, a very nice flavor).

Lee Reich
www.leereich.com


On Jan 23, 2005, at 1:49 PM, loneroc wrote:

There seems to be any number of seedling Ribes odoratum around under the
'Crandall' name. Does anyone have material that they believe is true to
name? Or perhaps 'Crandall' is now so confused that it'd best be abandoned.
If there is no true to name stuff, perhaps new and improved odoratum is
floating around in someone's currant patch?

Steve Herje, Lone Rock, WI


----- Original Message -----
From: <list@ginda.us>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Early Bloomers--Bee Feeders


On Jan 22, 2005, at 1:45 PM, Moyer, Richard wrote:
. . .
The Ribes also do well as early-mid spring bloomers, if you can get
them. R. odoratum 'Crandall' is a tough native with exquisite scent
that blooms with or soon after forsythia. Aka clove currant, this one
if very resistant to rust and mildew.


St. Lawrence Nurseries carries these (http://www.sln.potsdam.ny.us/) I
also got some from Miller, who sold them to me as "Prince Consort
Currant: finally the taste of the real European black currant". I
don't know if this was a mistake or a deliberate deception on their
part. (It is not the "consort" black currant, nor is it the same
species as the European black currant. It tastes pretty different,
too.)

The fruit is pleasant out of hand, and makes a nice pie (especially
mixed 50/50 with apple - you need to freeze the currant to do this as
the seasons don't match) but I admit I get the most pleasure out of
this plant in the spring, when it perfumes the air with a gentle clove
scent and brightens the landscape. It blooms very early in eastern
Massachusetts, a little after forsythia.

Ginda

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