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  • From: "philip sauber" <mrtejas@lycos.com>
  • To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: [NAFEX] Citrus varieties I am growing in the ground
  • Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 18:58:58 -0600

I am growing wekiwa tangelolo or lavender gem.  The taste to me is like pumelo with a fruit the size of a tangerine looking like a miniture grapefruit.  I have about 10 gallons of them to juice picked yesterday as the freeze last night was 27F.  BTW, the citrus belt in Texas had 4 inches of snow last night!  I saw a few snowflakes.  I banked my trees with soil and covered and heated a few.

I have grown several citrus trees from seed.  They have fruited for me from 1-3 years in the ground but a friend waited 17 years for a cocktail grapefruit to bear.  The downside is the trees tend to be very thorny in their juvenile stage.  A friend has a mature seedling kumquat.  The seeds at the base of the tree are 2 inches and longer.  The bearing wood at the top of the tree has no thorns.  Grafting bearing wood bypasses the thorny and fruitless juvenile stage.  About 50% of grafted trees will flower the first year, with the rest the second year.  I've grafted and grown about 300 trees.

The citrus I know that do not come true from seed (mono-embryonic) are clementine, pummelo, yuzu, umatilla tangor, and limequat.  These are used as the female in crossing.  Friends in Houston have made many crosses.  I am growing satsuma x fairchild and umatilla x blood orange.

Citrus seeds that have multiple sprouts from a single seed come true from seed.  This is called polyembryony.

Here are the varieties I am growing:

http://members.fortunecity.com/pjsauber/Varieties.htm

phil in z9a near Houston, TX

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Sadler"
To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'"
Subject: RE: [NAFEX] Citrus from seed, and tangelolos
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:08:32 -0800

 

 


From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of philip sauber
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 6:47 AM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Pummelo

 

Is there a source that mentions what chances of success one might have trying different citrus from seed?  I’ve found several that say Pummelo is commonly grown from seed, but of course, as Phil says, that doesn’t mean it will come true to type.  In fact, sources mention that named varieties are grafted.  It’s my rule of thumb that citrus can be grown from seed, and will often come true to type, but variances can certainly occur. 

Here’s a reference re: Pummelo seed:  http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/pummelo.htm

A page on citrus from seed: http://h2othouse.com/html/citrus_from_seed.html

And a request: I’ve been looking for tangelolo (tangelo x grapefruit) for years, after tasting the very refreshing and completely non-bitter Lavender Gem tangelolo.  I hear there’s a second commercial variety coming along in Florida.  I have found a source in Southern CA – I’m in Northern – and after years, the intrastate quarantine seems to be lifted.  But they’re pricey.  Anyone else know of a source for plants or seeds?

And Phil – which citrus are you growing?  I envy you the number of plants.  No room here for so many.  Right now I have a Kaffir lime and an unidentified orange, Valencia-like if not Valencia

~ Stephen S.

Zone 10

 

Phil wrote:

Pummelo is one of the few citrus that do NOT come true from seed.

phil with 25 citrus trees in the ground near Houston, TX



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