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  • From: "Raskin, Larry" <Lawrence.Raskin@jhuapl.edu>
  • To: "Mounted search and rescue" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: RE: [MSAR] Hard hats / Helmets
  • Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:10:40 -0400

For winter riding:
Try looking at some of the bicycle helmet covers. For the road bike in
the winter I have several covers, one that goes under the helmet and
another that can go over. I stay comfortable at pace speeds of 15 - 20
mph and downhill at 25 - 35 mph in air temps of 15 - 20 degree F.

For summer riding:

1) One of our 4-H'ers has a felt style cowboy hat that she made to go
over her riding helmet by soaking and stretching the largest hat she
could find.

2) I get my straw hats from the local Amish Community. I have thought
of bringing my riding helmet and having a hat made to fit over it.

3)I use a white Troxel with the sun visor. Not as good as my wide brim
straw but our team requirements a helmet. I remember cooking in the
dress black metal pot I had to wear as a kid in shows so black is out.

Maybe we should bug Troxel to make a straw cover (I prefer the wide brim
Amish style to the cowboy style, better ear and neck protection).

Just stirring the pot again,

Larry Raskin
TROT-SAR

-----Original Message-----
From: msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Paul Fleming
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 5:47 PM
To: Mounted search and rescue
Subject: Re: [MSAR] Hard hats / Helmets


This has been a most interesting thread. I have felt all along there are
times when our soup bowl riding helmets were as much a problem as they
problem solved. Now Jorene has shown me another. We ride a lot in the
rain. We have to tape up our vent holes and put up with the helmet
directing the rain down our collars. I'd be the first to buy a wide soft
brim helmet if somebody made one.

Paul Fleming
PMSAR



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jorene Downs" <Jorene@CEOates.com>
To: "Mounted search and rescue" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:56 PM
Subject: [MSAR] Hard hats / Helmets


Anyone looking at a "hard hat" or riding helmet who also lives in a hot
climate should be aware of the potential for heat-related health issues.
Commonly riding helmets have vents but may not be adequate for extreme
heat. (See article below specific to hard hats and heat.)

Locally the riders with vented riding helmets typically stop riding when
the temps hit @ 100*F (@ 36*C), claiming it is too hot to ride. I've had
MSAR out searching on days where the temp was 118*F (@ 46*C), wearing
traditional western straw hats. Horses and riders (all with adequate
hydration) did fine - and were willing to continue - but I sent them
home after lunch each day.

Note that the western style "helmet" under discussion is actually a hard
hat, not designed for riding. The "Western Outlaw" hard hat meets OSHA
Requirements and ANSI Z89.1 199 which is the new Type II hardhat
standard related to both top and some lateral / off-center impact. For
more information see http://www.customhardhats.com/ansi.shtml

~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Jorene Downs
Tulare SAR - Hasty Team ICP Team
www.ceoates.com/sar
Tulare-Kings CERT
www.tk-cert.org

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Cattle station workers walk out in hard hat protest
A number of cattle station workers in Western Australia's Kimberley
region have walked out after the introduction of mandatory hard hats. At
least two major land owners have applied the policy since the Jumbuck
Pastoral Company was fined $96,000 over the death of a 23-year-old
jackeroo in New South Wales four years ago. Kimberley station workers
say hard hats are not practical in the tropics and have led to several
cases of severe heatstroke this summer. The Pastoralists and Graziers
Association is lobbying to make the wearing of hard hats non-compulsory
in employment contracts.
Source: http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200504/s1342847.htm
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