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  • From: Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Science
  • Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:17:45 -0700 (PDT)

In criminal cases and fraud cases ----- Quo Bono?

Follow the money.  Follow the power.

Gore stands to make billions off of this. 
Developing nations stand to make billions.
The UN and IMF gain power.

What does that UK guy stand to make?

 



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From: "DSanner106 AT aol.com" <DSanner106 AT aol.com>
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 12:04:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Science

Exactly Rob,
      My father was a research chemist and one of  the things he told me
when I asked questions about my science classes was not to take what
they were saying as gospel. He said science is generally a series of
If-Then statements combined to reach a conclusion. Often they found  they
were wrong when science advanced enough to answer a few of the  If-Then's.
In medicine, what they originally thought were diseases actually turned  out
to be symptoms of problems they were never aware of. If you listen to them
though, they will tell you with complete confidence that you need leeches
or one of many other incorrect measures.

My big problem with the whole global warming debate is that it's biggest
spokesman, like Gore and other politicos have absolutely no background  in
science to make good guesses or understand the guesswork of the real
"experts". There are 10s of thousands of scientists weighing in on this and
they are split widely on whether this is real or not, and if it is whether 
man
plays any role in causing or preventing it. Gore flunked science classes  in
college and now we are not allowed to challenge him on his suppositions, as
the reporter in Great Britain did this week. He was quickly stifled and 
Gore
didn't answer a thing, just made fun of the guy. Politicians are forming 
our
healthcare system with no knowledge of health care, we have tax cheats 
running
our tax system. The guys who oversaw Fannie and Freddie are still  doing so
and
are on our budget committees. Knowledge is apparently overrated.

Drew


In a message dated 10/22/2009 11:05:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
waltonrp AT gmail.com writes:

The  global warming thread makes me think of something that's been on
my mind  lately. That is that scientists talk of their theories as if
they were  fact. It's annoying, and I think that sceintists should
learn from the  mistakes of their past. (The earth is not flat.)

I saw a program on the  latest find of a prehistoric human like fossil
in Ethiopia. Evolution of  man following the theory that they presented
was presented as a fact. Same  with doctors. They have very limited
understanding of how the human body  works, but they present their
theories as fact. Anyone for a  bleeding?

I'm not supporting any one mode of thought, I even think that  it's
good for our leaders to be advised by scientists. Understanding  that
science deals in theory and hypothesis is most important.

Rob -  Va

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Definately,
Gore left office worth less than a million dollars, and is now just a
few years later, somewhere in the 250 million dollar range. He started the
company that sells carbon emission credits. When people raised questions
about his wastefulness, with his mansion, heated pool that uses the energy of
dozens of homes, SUV's etc. , he said is was ok, he had purchased carbon
credits to cover this. He bought them from himself, and is raking in
millions from companies the govt. is armtwisting over factory emissions. If
everyone just sends a few billion to Gore, than we don't have to worry about
actually fixing factories or driving cleaner vehicles, right??

Drew


In a message dated 10/22/2009 12:18:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cayadopi AT yahoo.com writes:

In criminal cases and fraud cases ----- Quo Bono?

Follow the money. Follow the power.

Gore stands to make billions off of this.
Developing nations stand to make billions.
The UN and IMF gain power.

What does that UK guy stand to make?





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From: "DSanner106 AT aol.com" <DSanner106 AT aol.com>
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 12:04:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Science

Exactly Rob,
My father was a research chemist and one of the things he told me
when I asked questions about my science classes was not to take what
they were saying as gospel. He said science is generally a series of
If-Then statements combined to reach a conclusion. Often they found they
were wrong when science advanced enough to answer a few of the If-Then's.
In medicine, what they originally thought were diseases actually turned
out
to be symptoms of problems they were never aware of. If you listen to them
though, they will tell you with complete confidence that you need leeches
or one of many other incorrect measures.

My big problem with the whole global warming debate is that it's biggest
spokesman, like Gore and other politicos have absolutely no background in
science to make good guesses or understand the guesswork of the real
"experts". There are 10s of thousands of scientists weighing in on this
and
they are split widely on whether this is real or not, and if it is whether

man
plays any role in causing or preventing it. Gore flunked science classes
in
college and now we are not allowed to challenge him on his suppositions,
as
the reporter in Great Britain did this week. He was quickly stifled and
Gore
didn't answer a thing, just made fun of the guy. Politicians are forming
our
healthcare system with no knowledge of health care, we have tax cheats
running
our tax system. The guys who oversaw Fannie and Freddie are still doing
so
and
are on our budget committees. Knowledge is apparently overrated.

Drew


In a message dated 10/22/2009 11:05:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
waltonrp AT gmail.com writes:

The global warming thread makes me think of something that's been on
my mind lately. That is that scientists talk of their theories as if
they were fact. It's annoying, and I think that sceintists should
learn from the mistakes of their past. (The earth is not flat.)

I saw a program on the latest find of a prehistoric human like fossil
in Ethiopia. Evolution of man following the theory that they presented
was presented as a fact. Same with doctors. They have very limited
understanding of how the human body works, but they present their
theories as fact. Anyone for a bleeding?

I'm not supporting any one mode of thought, I even think that it's
good for our leaders to be advised by scientists. Understanding that
science deals in theory and hypothesis is most important.

Rob - Va

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