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  • From: Doug <Dougpol1 AT ADELPHIA.NET>
  • To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses
  • Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:09:55 -0400

Mike Linksvayer wrote:
Greg, there's some truth to your market/community distinction, but
preventing forks is not the point of anti-TPM language. TPM applied by
a third party can restrict a licensee's rights that a licensor intended
in the case of any CC license. TPM can potentially (in TPM imaginary
world anyway) prevent forks -- by preventing derivative works!

Besides, removing the anti-TPM language from everything *except* BY-SA
would satisfy almost nobody (except you :) as BY-SA is one of two
licenses Debian could potentially approve and they have a problem with
the anti-TPM language. If there was a case for removing anti-TPM
language from only some licenses it would make most sense to do nearly
the opposite of what you propose (remove only from "community"
licenses)!

Another exciting sentence!

Mike!

"Greg London" wrote on September 8, 2006 7:02:00 AM PDT:
The point of bullet 2 seems to have
been misunderstood. I suggested that
the anti-tpm clause be put in just the
ShareAlike license because that's the
one that needs protection from forks.

All the market economy licenses
NC, ND, don't really care about
forks because the license maintains
the original creator at an advantage.
The community isn't being protected
by the license, the creator is.

CC-BY is a community license, but it
allows proprietary forking, so why
not allow DRM forking. It's like the
BSD license or a Public Domain license
that allows the work to be taken private,
so CC-BY doesn't need an anti-TPM clause.

CC-SA is specifically for protecting a community
by preventing proprietary forking. TPM can be
used to implement forking without violating
a simple ShareAlike license with no anti-tpm clause.
Therefore, it is only the ShareAlike license that needs
the anti-tpm clause to prevent tpm to be used to
fork a sharealike work.

Since the anti-tpm clause is a problem for some
people, I suggested using it only in the ShareAlike
license so as to minimize the problem.








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