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  • From: Ben <chpapa AT gmail.com>
  • To: "Charles Mok" <mok AT hknet.com>
  • Cc: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] FW: CC-HK progress report
  • Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:27:54 -0700

Hello Chong and Charles,

If there will be a practical workshop, I would like to help on this.
The workshop idea is good for students, they will know what kind of
materials they can use, and also clarify some of the confusion -- for
example, some students without proper understanding on CC put their
own CC-license tag on copyrighted materials and think that by doing
this they can use the materials as they want..... Well...

I think as long as we make sure other people understand that the
activities are not come from the CC organization and Creative Common
license is not localized Hong Kong Law which means it may not
effective, it is great for different people try to introduce the idea
of CC to their own community.

Ben

On 9/21/07, Charles Mok <mok AT hknet.com> wrote:
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> Charles Mok 莫乃光 charlesmok.blogspot.com
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> From: Chong Chan-yau [mailto:chanyau AT hku.hk]
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 12:13 PM
> To: 'Charles Mok (gmail)'; cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: RE: [Cc-hk] FW: CC-HK progress report
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> Dear Charles,
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> Dare Charles,
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> Thanks for your offer.
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> I agree with your analysis..
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> How about a small scale workshop type of thing.
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> Popularising the use of cc materials on international sites may already be
> a agood end for some of our students.
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> Rgds.
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> Chan Yau
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> From: cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Charles Mok (gmail)
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 9:32 AM
> To: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [Cc-hk] FW: CC-HK progress report
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> I can offer to co-organize this, Chan Yau. But, I think we really need to
> have some better progress and a firmer timetable before we should do more
> to attract a wider audience, or else we may risk (1) not having enough
> things solid to share, or (2) attracting more people to complicate matters
> even more. We must _focus_ on the legal drafting issues first at this
> stage although I know a lot of the rest of us are eager to move.
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> Charles
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> Charles Mok 莫乃光 charlesmok.blogspot.com
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> From: cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Chong Chan-yau
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:25 AM
> To: 'Rebecca MacKinnon'; jerryhua AT hkusua.hku.hk
> Cc: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org; 'Doreen Weisenhaus'; 'Peter Yu'; 'ying chan'
> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] CC-HK progress report
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> Dear Rebecca and all,
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> Thank you for your update.
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> Much progress seems to be happening.
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> I would like to propose a workshop or seminar where the use of CC can be
> promoted to a wider audience than the people signing up to this list.
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> Rebecca indicates that she will be more available in the fall.
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> I offer to take the initiative to do the organizing.
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> Any one who is interested as a speaker, etc.
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> This seminar is intended for the laymen, internet users, students etc.
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> It should contain demonstration, experience sharing, etc. Some background
> introd, and overlap may be useful.
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> Will let you the progress. Welcome expression of interests.
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> Chan Yau
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> From: cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Rebecca MacKinnon
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 12:03 AM
> To: jerryhua AT hkusua.hku.hk
> Cc: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org; Doreen Weisenhaus; Peter Yu; ying chan
> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] CC-HK progress report
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> Thanks Jerry, great to meet you. There are several people on this list with
> IP expertise and familiarity with CC, so please feel free to ask for help!
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> On Sep 21, 2007, at 11:51 PM, jerryhua AT hkusua.hku.hk wrote:
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> I am Jerry Hua, the graduate student recently recruited in the CC-HK
> project. I am fist-year PhD under the supervision of Ms Yahong Li, doing
> research in IP. As a fresh research student, I have not developed expertise
> in IP yet, but I do hope I could make efforts to promote the progress of
> this project and learn from you all.
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> ----- Message from rebecca.mackinnon AT gmail.com ---------
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> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:17:41 +0800
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> From: Rebecca MacKinnon <rebecca.mackinnon AT gmail.com>
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> Reply-To: Rebecca MacKinnon <rebecca.mackinnon AT gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Cc-hk] CC-HK progress report
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> To: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org
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> Cc: Doreen Weisenhaus <doreen AT hku.hk>, Peter Yu <peter_yu AT msn.com>, ying
> chan <yychan AT hku.hk>
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> Hello everybody!
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> Sorry for the long silence. Many people were away in August, then things
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> 2. CC CONTENT DIRECTORY PROJECT: Two other new additions to this mailing
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> 4. NEXT MEETING? Some people have asked when we will have another meeting
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> 5. BEN CHENG: Ben Cheng, who attended our July meeting, has been hired
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> Any further questions, ideas, thoughts, opinions, etc. are greatly welcome.
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> Cheers,
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> Rebecca
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> Rebecca MacKinnon
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> Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Ctr.
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> University of Hong Kong (http://jmsc.hku.hk)
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> E-mail: rmack AT hku.hk | Tel: +852-2219-4005
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> Rebecca MacKinnon
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> E-mail: rmack AT hku.hk | Tel: +852-2219-4005
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> Co-founder: GlobalVoicesOnline.org
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