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  • From: "edmon@isochk" <isochk AT gmail.com>
  • To: "'Jon Phillips'" <jon AT creativecommons.org>, "'Matthew MF Yuen'" <meymf AT ust.hk>
  • Cc: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Meeting?
  • Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 05:31:06 +0800

Hi Everyone,

We at ISOC HK is actually organizing an event on July 25. Though the event
is focused on domain names. It could be possible to use the venue in the
morning for a meeting if it works for people. Also, of course everyone is
invited to the subsequent activities :-)

I think I will be heading over for Wikimania as well, but August 1 should
work for me too.

Edmon




> -----Original Message-----
> From: cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On
> Behalf Of Jon Phillips
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:50 AM
> To: Matthew MF Yuen
> Cc: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Meeting?
>
> On Sun, 2007-06-24 at 14:23 +0800, Matthew MF Yuen wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > This is fine with me. If you need me to help in setting up a meeting place
> > at HKUST, please let me know. Need to fix the time quickly so that I can
> > arrrange the schedule for myself.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Matthew
>
> Look like I prefer AUG 1 for a meeting, but please others, speak up
> quick! We need to lock in plane tickets and schedules :)
>
> Jon
>
> > Jon Phillips wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 19:27 +0800, Rebecca MacKinnon wrote:
> > > > Hello everybody. Just thought I would revive this thread. Shall we
> > > > organize a meeting for July or August?
> > > > Rebecca
> > >
> > > Hi all, the best time for me is going to be late July, early august. I
> > > have to be back in SF pretty quick after wikimania.
> > >
> > > Is during the week okay? I'm also quite interested in meeting with
> > > businesses who are interested in using CC licensing. I would like to
> > > spend 1-2 days in Hong Kong to get CC-HK setup and then also setup some
> > > high level business meetings to present CC to public and privately to
> > > key businesses.
> > >
> > > What dates seem the best? July 30, 31, August 1, 2 all are open, but I
> > > have to be in Tapei for wikimania AUG 2-5.
> > >
> > > Cheers! Would it make sense to have one legal meetup to get the legal
> > > team squared away? And then, have a wider public meetup?
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > > > On May 21, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Li Yahong wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Matthew and Jon,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps early August is better as Jon can join then. Can Jon
> > > > > confirm a date when he is in HK?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best, Yahong
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew MF Yuen" <meymf AT ust.hk>
> > > > > To: "Jon Phillips" <jon AT creativecommons.org>
> > > > > Cc: "Li Yahong" <yali AT hku.hk>; <cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org>; "uta lam"
> > > > > <utalam AT gmail.com>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 9:16 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Notes from Last Friday's Informal Lunch - May
> > > > > 11th
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Jon,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The important person is Yahong. I would like to pin down her diary
> > > > > > first. I would be
> > > > > > flexible to accomodate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Yahong,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Shall we go by July 15 as per suggested?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Matthew
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jon Phillips wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 10:03 +0800, Matthew Yuen wrote:
> > > > > > > > Dear Jon,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am not sure whether I shall be around on 15th July. Let us
> > > > > > > work on > this day, if
> > > > > > > > I am not around, I shall get someone in the TTC office to host
> > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Matthew
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ok, sounds good...what dates are good for you then? Like I said,
> > > > > > > I can
> > > > > > > possibly come through early Aug. near wikimania in Taipei.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jon Phillips wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 10:38 +0800, Li Yahong wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Jon,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How about July 15?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Yahong
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > That sounds good. I'll be in UK then. Although, I will be in
> > > > > > > Taipei > > Aug
> > > > > > > > > 3-5, so I might be able to swing through then...I don't want
> > > > > > > to slow > > the
> > > > > > > > > process down though.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Jon Phillips" <jon AT creativecommons.org>
> > > > > > > > > > To: "Mr. Pindar Wong" <pindar AT pacific.net.hk>
> > > > > > > > > > Cc: <cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org>; "Li Yahong" <yali AT hku.hk>;
> > > > > > > "Matthew > > > MF Yuen"
> > > > > > > > > > <meymf AT ust.hk>; "uta lam" <utalam AT gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:05 AM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Notes from Last Friday's Informal
> > > > > > > Lunch - May > > > 11th
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 07:56 +0800, Mr. Pindar Wong
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> On May 16, 2007, at 3:03 AM, Jon Phillips wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> > On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 00:05 +0800, uta lam wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Hi Pindar,
> > > > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Wow, you guys really discuss a lot of issues in the
> > > > > > > meeting.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> it was quite informative actually and fortunately went
> > > > > > > beyond > > > >> the
> > > > > > > > > > >> initial exchanging of pleasantries ;)
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> I would imagine that a first formal meeting would be
> > > > > > > even more > > > >> so...
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> But as I remember that the key of starting the
> > > > > > > project is to > > > >> >> identify
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> a legal lead first, any potential candidates
> > > > > > > nominated from > > > >> >> the
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> meeting?
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> In trying to understand the status of the project thus
> > > > > > > far, we > > > >> also
> > > > > > > > > > >> named Ms Yahong Li and Prof. Matthew Yuen (from Jon's
> > > > > > > first > > > >> meeting
> > > > > > > > > > >> on this subject back in 2006)!
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> As far as we could tell, based on postings to this
> > > > > > > list,
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> 1) we've two legal scholars Ms. Yahong Li (HKU) and
> > > > > > > Rebecca Ong
> > > > > > > > > > >> (City U - kindly introduced by Kenneth)
> > > > > > > > > > >> 2) several individuals associated with 'academic'
> > > > > > > bodies - > > > >> applied
> > > > > > > > > > >> research (ASTRI) and universities (HKUST, CU, HKU ... )
> > > > > > > law > > > >> faculties/
> > > > > > > > > > >> media/cultural studies departments
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> So Uta ... several potential candidates and
> > > > > > > institutions! ;)
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> CC may have already identified both (from Jon's email
> > > > > > > below) -- > > > >> which
> > > > > > > > > > >> is *fantastic* to move things forward! :)
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Although the ligh-level process for formation was clear
> > > > > > > ( > > > >> http://
> > > > > > > > > > >> wiki.creativecommons.org/Worldwide_Overview ), we
> > > > > > > nevertheless > > > >> had
> > > > > > > > > > >> several operational/logistical/strategic user-related
> > > > > > > questions > > > >> as
> > > > > > > > > > >> well as some practical ones e.g. whether our existing
> > > > > > > > > > >> commercial
> > > > > > > > > > >> contacts could be used to leverage pro-bono work from
> > > > > > > a > > > >> commercial
> > > > > > > > > > >> law firm (Bakers, JSM, Slaughter&May etc) for the
> > > > > > > initial review
> > > > > > > > > > >> (given that we've a common law history and version 3.0
> > > > > > > > > > >> released )
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> So, with the combined experience on this list, we
> > > > > > > should have > > > >> enough
> > > > > > > > > > >> clue to answer the 'known unknowns' !
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> As Jon, who was at the first meeting in 2006, mentioned
> > > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Any plan to contact those candidates?
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Ah... well they're all on the list and assumed to be >
> > > > > > > > > >> periodically
> > > > > > > > > > >> reading mail.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Based on Yahong's email of May 8th, she would not be
> > > > > > > available > > > >> till
> > > > > > > > > > >> July (earliest) and the thought of organising a 1st
> > > > > > > meeting in > > > >> July
> > > > > > > > > > >> was in deference to this reality.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Yahong: Would it be possible for you to propose a
> > > > > > > convenient > > > >> date in
> > > > > > > > > > >> July per your scheduled?
> > > > > > > > > > >> Matthew: Would it be possible for you to host this
> > > > > > > meeting in > > > >> HKUST?
> > > > > > > > > > >> Jon: Would it be possible to participate by
> > > > > > > teleconference/video
> > > > > > > > > > >> conference (we could rig something up)?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Sure, but Catharina, is really the ideal person to do
> > > > > > > this :)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> p.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Uta
> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > Ms Yahong Li and Prof. Matthew Yuen
> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > There is a chance that both Catharina and myself will
> > > > > > > be at
> > > > > > > > > > >> > wikimania in
> > > > > > > > > > >> > taiwan in AUG, so depending if either of us get
> > > > > > > there, could > > > >> > possibly
> > > > > > > > > > >> > swing through. Catharina is your best bet...
> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > I will potentially travel through though in the next
> > > > > > > 6-9 > > > >> > months
> > > > > > > > > > >> > because
> > > > > > > > > > >> > my family lives in Guangzhou...and I'm scouting out
> > > > > > > places to > > > >> > live in
> > > > > > > > > > >> > China/HK ;) (a little personal info for you all :)
> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > Jon
> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Jon Phillips
> > > > > > > > > > > jon AT creativecommons.org
> > > > > > > > > > > cell: 510.499.0894
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Community/Business Developer
> > > > > > > > > > > Creative Commons
> > > > > > > > > > > www.creativecommons.org
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Jon Phillips
> > > > > > > > > jon AT creativecommons.org
> > > > > > > > > cell: 510.499.0894
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Community/Business Developer
> > > > > > > > > Creative Commons
> > > > > > > > > www.creativecommons.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Matthew Yuen, Ph.D.
> > > > > > > > Director, Technology Transfer Centre, and
> > > > > > > > Professor of Mechanical Engineering
> > > > > > > > Hong Kong University of Science & Technology
> > > > > > > > Clearwater Bay,
> > > > > > > > Hong Kong
> > > > > > > > Tel: (852) 2358 7914
> > > > > > > > Fax: (852) 2358 1202
> > > > > > > > Email: meymf AT ust.hk
> > > > > > > > http://www.ttc.ust.hk/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Jon Phillips
> > > > > > > jon AT creativecommons.org
> > > > > > > cell: 510.499.0894
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Community/Business Developer
> > > > > > > Creative Commons
> > > > > > > www.creativecommons.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Prof. Matthew M F Yuen
> > > > > > Director, Technology Transfer Center and
> > > > > > Professor of Mechanical Engineering
> > > > > > Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
> > > > > > Clearwater Bay, N.T.,
> > > > > > Hong Kong
> > > > > > Tel: (852) 2358 7914, Fax: (852) 2358 1202
> > > > > > Email: meymf AT ust.hk
> > > > > > http://www.ttc.ust.hk/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rebecca MacKinnon
> > > > Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Ctr.
> > > > University of Hong Kong (http://jmsc.hku.hk)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > email: rmack AT hku.hk
> > > > blog: www.RConversation.com
> > > > Tel: +852-2219-4005
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Co-founder:
> > > > www.GlobalVoicesOnline.org
> > > > "The world is talking. Are you listening?"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > --
> > > Jon Phillips
> > > jon AT creativecommons.org
> > > cell: 510.499.0894
> > >
> > > Community/Business Developer
> > > Creative Commons
> > > www.creativecommons.org
> >
> > --
> > Prof. Matthew M F Yuen
> > Director, Technology Transfer Center and
> > Professor of Mechanical Engineering
> > Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
> > Clearwater Bay, N.T.,
> > Hong Kong
> > Tel: (852) 2358 7914, Fax: (852) 2358 1202
> > Email: meymf AT ust.hk
> > http://www.ttc.ust.hk/
> >
> --
> Jon Phillips
> jon AT creativecommons.org
> cell: 510.499.0894
>
> Community/Business Developer
> Creative Commons
> www.creativecommons.org
>
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