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  • From: David Palmer <davidpalmer AT westnet.com.au>
  • To: development of an education license or license option for Creative Commons <cc-education AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-education] cc.edu survey results and deja vu
  • Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:52:01 -0000

On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 00:40, David Wiley wrote:
> <minor rant>
> Anyone who knows the research we've been doing for the last several
> years knows that my group and I are all about informal learning. Every
> funded research project we have going right now is significantly, if not
> completely, concerned with informal learning targeting underserved
> populations. The name of the group is "Open Sustainable Learning
> Opportunity"for goodness sake. I want informal learning to be available
> via the license as much if not more than anyone else on the list.
> Personal attacks that accuse me of promoting "class victimization" are
> either severely uninformed or simply dishonest. I wish we could get on
> with the business of the list. For example,
> </rant>

I thought that I was describing the situation as it exists, I can't
recall associating that situation with any particular personality?

>
> Survey respondents said they thought an educational use license would
> give them rights to make only educational and research related uses of
> materials, but that these uses need not be restricted to those carried
> out in formal educational settings (thanks to Stephen for helping me see
> this more clearly). I believe that the most productive thing for us to
> do, as list members, is to draft language that expresses a restricion on
> use to educational and research purposes without invoking the notion of
> a formal educational institution. As much as members of this list enjoy
> writing, I would think we could get some excellent drafts laid on the
> table in fairly short order. =)
>
> Let's take a week and see how many draft clauses we can gather together.
> Next Thursday we'll start discussing their relavtive merits. I'll try to
> make sure that one of lawyers CC has so graciously donated to our cause
> is listening in.
>
> If you believe there is something more productive we could be doing than
> drafting this language (e.g., doing the survey again), let's hear it.
>
O.K.
Regards,

David.





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