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  • From: Jon Phillips <jon AT creativecommons.org>
  • To: Nathan Yergler <nathan AT creativecommons.org>
  • Cc: "cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org" <cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org>, Hubert Figuière <hub AT figuiere.net>, Asheesh Laroia <asheesh AT creativecommons.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-devel] exempi + liblicense into desktop and distros
  • Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:42:40 +0900


On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 04:26 -0700, Nathan Yergler wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Jon Phillips <jon AT creativecommons.org>
> wrote:
> > Ah, back to the open public lists...
> >
> > I'm curious Hubert, if you have exempi included into any apps? And, what
> > distros exempi is included in?
> >
> > http://libopenraw.freedesktop.org/wiki/Exempi
> >
> > Have you had any luck with that and getting it into the core of the
> > desktop?
> >
> > I'm trying to do an assessment of what needs to be done to get
> > liblicense into gnome and possibly some other targets apps so that it is
> > a default library on the major open source/free software desktops...
> >
> > http://creativecommons.org/projects/liblicense
> >
> > For those of you late to the party, liblicense is: Low-level license
> > metadata integration for applications.
> >
> > The roadmap hasn't been updated in a while, but Asheesh/Nathan have been
> > working on it...
> >
> > One of my goals is to get it into KDE and Gnome and major distros by
> > default: ubuntu, fedora, suse, gentoo (ok, that is not as high a
> > priority, but what I use...no lashing out at me on that one ;)
> >
> > Before we discussed good target apps for liblicense integration
> > including miro, eye of gnome...are there other low hanging fruit ones to
> > add, and/or how can we encourage integration as part of google summer of
> > code?
>
> Not to be a stickler, but isn't asking for app integration suggestions
> the same as discussing targets for integration? ;)

y

> We really have a chicken + egg problem: distros may be uninterested in
> bundling liblicense without a demonstrated need (ie, something
> depending on it). Developers may be reluctant to accept a patch that
> adds a dependency that's not available anywhere (I would be). So
> we're currently pursuing a two pronged approach: inclusion in at least
> one high level distro, patches for existing apps.

Right, integration into key app will drive library getting into
distro...and not the reverse...no one wants an empty library without any
use in the d-istro.

> Asheesh has tasks in his work queue related to developing patches for
> something like EoG; once we have that in place (or as that's
> developing), I think we'll probably target Debian first -- if nothing
> else their inclusion process is well defined, so we know exactly how
> to get the package in.
>
> NRY

Yep, that sounds purrrfect...anyone else out their in cc-devel land have
any thoughts and/or coding energy to help?

Jon

> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > --
> > Jon Phillips
> > jon AT creativecommons.org
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> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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Jon Phillips
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im: kidproto
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