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  • From: Guy Hachlili <hguy AT cogniview.com>
  • To: Mike Linksvayer <ml AT creativecommons.org>
  • Cc: cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org, "Nathan R. Yergler" <nathan AT creativecommons.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-devel] Retrieving other licenses and license icons from the api
  • Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:25:32 +0300

Answers and questions embedded in the text below.

Mike Linksvayer wrote:
The server probably should return XMP as well as HTML+metadata and
RDF/XML. And HTML+metadata will not include embedded RDF/XML soon.

That indeed will help. We planned on creating the XMP from the RDF, but
getting it directly would be much better.

On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 08:26 -0400, Nathan R. Yergler wrote:
Couple of bullet points that might answer most of your questions:

* Right now the individual icon URLs aren't provided by the web service;
the only image provided is the one used in the license-notice HTML (the
generic some-rights-reserved image).

So I gathered. Is there a plan to add them to the web service?

* You can retrieve the questions needed for a sampling license, or issue
a sampling license by using the license class of "recombo" (this is a
historical artifact). For example,
http://api.creativecommons.org/rest/dev/license/recombo will give you an
XML document describing the questions which need to be answer to issue a
Sampling license.

I read the api documentation and gathered that.
* There currently isn't developing nations license support in the API.
This is mostly because the API is designed to allow applications to
easily integrate the "questions" for generating a license. There are no
questions involved with DevNations -- it's a single, static license
(http://creativecommons.org/license/devnations).

Then again, the public domain license is also static, i.e., doesn't have any
questions to be answered. So why aren't the rest of the licenses (the various
GNU licenses, the Wiki, Developing Nations, etc.) supported?

* The web services API currently returns the license RDF and license
URI, but not the actual XMP information. That said, it should have all
the pieces you need to construct it for either the normal CC licenses or
the Sampling licenses. We can talk about generating that from the web
service if it's desirable.

So I guess the open questions for improving the web services are:

* Do we need a way to retrieve the license property images? Note that
this won't be such a big deal with the new 3.0 licenses, when the
"buttons" will contain visual indicators of what the license properties
are, depending on the selected license (and that will be exposed through
the web service)?
* Is there any reason to generate the XMP on the server side?

And in addition, is there a way to work with a specific future version of the
web service? I wouldn't want to write code that uses the /dev web service,
because when the next version is stabilized, the URL will change to 2.0 or
3.0 or whatnot, and the /dev version will move on. So is there an option to
use the 2.0 version (even while it is being developed) from a /2.0 URL?


Let me know if this doesn't answer your questions fully or raises
others.

Nathan


On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 13:04 +0300, Guy Hachlili wrote:
Hi.

We at Cogniview have been working on an Acrobat plugin that will allow adding
CC licenses to PDF documents using a wizard.

In order to provide a better user experience, we'd like to be able to
retrieve the license XMP information for the Developing Nations license, and
the icons used to indicate the license type (for example, the Attribution
icon or the No-Derivative icon). We cannot find a way to retrieve the
locations of the icons or the non-regular-CC license XMP (like the Developing
Nations or Sampling licenses) from the web-services API.

Is it possible? If not, is there a plan to add support for such queries?

Regards,
Guy


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