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  • From: James Christian <jc.bhebrew AT googlemail.com>
  • To: Rolf Furuli <furuli AT online.no>
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Patriarchs used YHWH's name?
  • Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 23:05:02 +0200

Hi Rolf,

when I said three possibilities I was talking in reference to the
possibilities which explain how or if YHWH and )HYH are related. So, I'm not
sure I'm understanding how what you relates to this.

James Christian

2009/12/25 Rolf Furuli <furuli AT online.no>

> Dear James,
>
> There are more possibilities. In the Tanakh we find YH and YHWH. The
> forms Yahu (or Yehu, Yaho, or Yeho) are based on the Elephantine
> papyri, and the name is written there as YHW. It is taken for granted
> that the last W is a vowel, but why could it not be a consonant? And
> in that case, which vowels should we add? For example, the 2nd person
> singular, masculine personal pronoun is normally written as )TH, but
> it is also written as )T. The final H represents the vowel qamets,
> but we also assume a qamets below the T when the H i lacking. If this
> was the case with with the Elephantine YHW, how should we pronounce
> it? To look at the Greek transcription IAW is not conclusive, because
> the rough breathing (h) can only occur at the beginning of a word.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rolf Furuli
> University of Oslo
>
>
>
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >obviously Yah, Yeho and Yahu are indisputable. There is far too much
> >evidence in their favour to be ignored. This kind of puts the EHYEH YIHWEH
> >relationship into question. I basically see only a few possibilities.
> >
> >1) EHYEH and YHWH are completely unrelated. This poses no great problems.
> >2) EHYEH is the 3rd person form of the 1st person name YIHWEH (Yah, Yeho,
> >Yahu, IAW and IABA pose problems for this theory)
> >3) The vowel pointing of )HYH is wrong and was purposefully put there to
> >stop up from reconstructing the correct vowel pointing of YHWH (the
> >testimony of the LXX translation poses great problems for this theory)
> >
> >James Christian
> >
> >2009/12/25 Michael J Miles <mjmorthotics0 AT msn.com>
> >
> >> I vote for the abbreviated monosyllable Yah; then the extended
> >> dual-syllable
> >> Yehweh or Yahweh; then the fullest and most proper tri-syllabic Yehowah
> or
> >> Y'HOWAH; agreeing with those like Tregelles and Ginsburg. Mike Miles.
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> From: "Richard" <aaa AT endlyss.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:16 PM
> >> To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Patriarchs used YHWH's name?
> >>
> >> > Hi Christian,
> >> >
> >> > One answer to your question is available here on page 11:
> > > > http://www.karaite-korner.org/yhwh_2.pdf
> >> >
> >> > I don't want to offend anyone by saying more.
> >> >
> >> > Richard Conaway
> >> >
> >> >
> > > >
>
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