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  • From: TedBro AT aol.com
  • To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] 1Q287 Tanakh Deut. 32:43
  • Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 16:48:06 EST

Kenneth:

First of all, I'm Jewish and I certainly did not intend to insult either all
Jewish people or the Massoretes. However, given variety in the available
manuscript families, it is undeniable that groups tend to use those that
support
their particular view. The verse in question is a Christian proof text in
that it claims a high station for Christ such that the angels of God worship
him.

An example of such biases from the NT, and I hope I don't get in trouble for
this either, is a verse in 1 John 5:7 that crept into late manuscripts to
support the Trinity, parapharsing "there are three that bear witness in
Heaven,
the Father, Son and Holy Ghost and these three are one." Manuscripts from
before the 15th century do not contain these words, Nevertheless they got
into
the King James Version. This, of course, is not to say that a scribe made it
up out of whole cloth. The added words may have been a scribal gloss that
was
added to the text in stages.

Peace,
Ted Brownstein
============


In a message dated 2/1/2009 2:52:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il writes:

Kenneth,

There's no reason for you to be "in trouble", but I don't think that Ted
intended to insult anyone. While I don't agree with his asessment, he does
have a right to state his opinion.

Yigal Levin

----- Original Message -----
From: "kenneth greifer" <greifer AT hotmail.com>
To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:10 PM
Subject: [b-hebrew] 1Q287 Tanakh Deut. 32:43


>
>
> Ted,
>
> I think it was kind of insulting to Jewish people to say that the
> Masoretic scholars would drop a quote from the Torah because it could be
> used as a proof text by Christians. You said that all people are biased,
> so maybe you believe that Christians added some proof texts. I know that
> we can't discuss religion on B-hebrew, but it does not seem fair that you
> can say bad things about Jewish people, but you don't say bad things about

> Christian people.
>
> I think the Jewish scholars did not drop controversial quotes from the
> Torah because there are many so called "proof texts" in the Tanakh. If
> they had dropped them, then there would be many fewer quotes, and this
> particular quote you pointed out does not even sound like a Messianic
> proof quote to me.
>
> I will probably be in trouble for writing this, but I can't believe what
> you said, and that nobody said anything about it.
>
> Kenneth Greifer
>


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