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  • From: "Arthur Gershman" <gershman18 AT msn.com>
  • To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>, "K Randolph" <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Gen. 2:16-17 :: idiom or clumsy lie
  • Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 12:03:25 -0500

Dear List,
Insofar as we are continuing this stream, could we possibly rename it to
remove the term "lie?" I find it offensive.
Sincerely,
Art Gershman
Ben Zoma said: Who is wise? Those who learn from all people. Pirkei Avot 4:1
----- Original Message -----
From: K Randolph<mailto:kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org<mailto:b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Gen. 2:16-17 :: idiom or clumsy lie


Isaac:

On 12/3/06, Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu<mailto:if AT math.bu.edu>> wrote:
> Adam's fate is sealed in Gen 4.1: And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she
> conceived, and bare Cain. The power of procreation is a sure sign for
> a certain demise. Where there is birth there is death---it can not
> be otherwise.
> ---Isaac Fried

That is not a given. While it is true today, was it so prior to
Genesis 3? The context of the narration indicates that that is not so.

We should not take our situation and project it onto a situation other
than ours. The context is that rebelling would introduce death, an
action that did not exist prior to rebellion, as made explicit in the
understanding of the first century Jews who wrote the New Testament.

Karl W. Randolph.
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