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  • From: "Ken Penner" <ken.penner AT acadiau.ca>
  • To: "Peter Kirk" <peter AT qaya.org>, "Dave Washburn" <dwashbur AT nyx.net>
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] word order
  • Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 11:06:36 -0400

In light of recent discussion on Hebrew word order, listers might be
interested in the following description of using software to search for
various orders of verb, subject, and object.
http://blog.logos.com/archives/2005/12/syntax_vso_svo_vos_ovs_sov_osv.html

Ken Penner
PhD cand., DSS Hebrew/McMaster
Post-biblical Hebrew/Acadia


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[mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Peter Kirk
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:49 AM
To: Dave Washburn
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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] word order

On 25/11/2005 01:05, Dave Washburn wrote:

> ...
>
>I'm one of them. I find it amusing that anyone uses a statistical
>argument for a base order of VSO, because the statistics are heavily
>skewed by the frequency of the wayyiqtol, which just about everyone
>agrees is a converted (i.e. secondary, not basal) form. ...
>

I'm not one of them. And I would have thought "just about everyone" is an
exaggeration. An alternative view which I thought was quite widely accepted
is that WAYYIQTOL is in fact a more original and ancient form, an old
proto-Semitic verb form, to which is attached the vav marking the clause
boundary. Because this form adheres to the original VSO word order and is not
used in secondary constructions in which the verb has moved, the vav has
become inseparable. - or perhaps jussives are WAYYIQTOLs without their vav. I
don't claim that this is necessarily true, but I have seen no clear evidence
that WAYYIQTOL is secondary, rather than primary and reflecting the original
dominant Hebrew word order.

--
Peter Kirk
peter AT qaya.org (personal)
peterkirk AT qaya.org (work)
http://www.qaya.org/

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