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  • From: "Liz Fried" <lizfried AT umich.edu>
  • To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: RE: reading hebrew
  • Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:58:10 -0400

I'd like to reassure people that it is possible to go
from a read-only language to actually speaking.
I just got back from 12 days in Israel and was quite pleased
to realize that I could get by with my 2500 year old vocabulary
and grammar (with some English additions). Once tho I told
the waiter that I wanted tay Ham taHat ha Soda (that I had
originally ordered). He brought me both the tea and the soda. I
learned only later that taHat does not mean "instead of" in
Modern Hebrew.
I had a lot of fun tho. People answered me in ENglish, but
I continued with my BH.
Liz
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Bearpecs AT aol.com [mailto:Bearpecs AT aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 11:23 AM
To: Biblical Hebrew
Subject: Re: reading hebrew

In a message dated 6/10/01 10:00:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
kfleming AT wctel.net writes:
How do most of you all whose
original language is not Hebrew read the Hebrew?


I think this is an extremely important question, and worth our discussing.  I
came to Biblical Hebrew after beginning to learn Modern Hebrew, so I was
already speaking and hearing the language.  That, however, also has its
downside:  First, it's easy to mistakenly apply MH concepts to BH, such as
thinking as if the prefixed verb form indicates future tense (MH) versus
imperfective aspect (BH).  Second, MH conflates sounds, so the distinction
between kaph and qof may be lost (unless your MH teacher is from an
Arabic-speaking Sephardic/Oriental community).  (I had the advantage of some
prior linguistics study, so it was easier to understand the MH/BH
differences.)

I'm sure that mentally translating from the second language into English is
an inevitable step in language learning.  (I remember the first time someone
spoke to me in Hebrew and I *didn't* need to translate before answering.)  
But I imagine that it must be more difficult to get beyond that if you are
only reading and not speaking and hearing the language.  Do others agree?  Is
anyone familiar with language-acquisition studies that would answer the
question?

I do have one small suggestion.  Move as quickly as possible from using
vocabulary lists and textbook glossaries to real translations using BDB and
other lexicons.  Also make use of multiple English translations, including
modern and classical, Jewish and Christian.  (I think it's a significant
lacuna that many Christians studying bible don't use the New JPS
translation.)  The danger, of course, is that "wayommer" does NOT always mean
"and ___ said".  It could be "[then] he said", or "but he will say", etc.  
Getting in the habit of translating it as "and ___ said" therefore leads to
errors.

I admit I've never really mastered a language that is only read, so I'm
particularly interested in hearing from others about that experience.

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