To: Permaculture ibiblio <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] anyone else want to host this list?
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 22:56:16 -0500
Sorry, I accidentally resent Loren's reply to Michael before I added my
comments to it. Loren basically echoed my feelings but with a teasing
yet pointed comeback. Michael has a lot of ideas which deserve
consideration and conversation. More types of courses, which address
other areas than just the design of properties for food production,
sounds promising and needed to enlarge both the scope and audience for
Permaculture. Food, however, is fundamental and basic in most human
circumstances. While growing ones own food is a rather foreign concept
to many Americans and westerners it might be good to remember that
Americans just recently became net importers of food (importing more
than we produce). We need to be encouraged and empowered to become
producers and the standard course hopefully does that.
The PcDC that I teach (and every teacher I know) offers far more than
just how to grow food and introduces profound revelations about the
nature of ecological systems (forests, water cycles, weather cycles,
gardening and agriculture) that is CRUCIAL to the understanding of ALL
humans, no matter their specialty or focus. Despite our contrasting
perspectives on the matter of certification, the design manual, upon
which the curriculum is based, is a hugely important collection of ideas
which serve and address real and deep needs in all humans and their
landscapes. Not to say that it addresses ALL of them, but it comes damn
close. It truly deserves a semester or two, or three. If what you are
teaching is not this curriculum, then don't offer a PDC certificate for
it. Offer a DIFFERENT certificate for it (but please share your
curricula amongst your peers and coleagues...we might learn something.)
I would like to read some of the new curriculums being created /
imagined. I might want to teach some. I might want someone to teach me
or to teach with me.
Keith
Keith Johnson wrote:
Loren Davidson wrote:
At 08:44 PM 3/6/05 -1000, Michael Kramer wrote:
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