Voluntarily, hmmm. Like driving. remember the article I posted a couple of days ago , one cop can tape and record for perpetuity 8000 car licenses an hour. Soon, they monitors will not be held by cops, but placed every so often on a freeway or road system, your every travel will be recorede.
This is not science fiction; it is happening now. Why should I pay over $2.00 lb. for frozen chicken when the store has it for 59 cents lb with the store card. Should I be required to pay triple or quadrupluble just for the exact same anonymity we all took for granted just a few years ago?
When Marie makes a post, like she did last week, about her experiences with radioactive waste in Illinois being stored in pole buildings, and I do a "search" out of curiosity to see if they are still doing it, and if they do the same in other states, is my name and IP # put in a database in case something happens at one of those storage facilities. Am I not allowed to be curious?
If I go to the Indian Casino every once in a while and cash in my chips for cash, why is every "cash out" recorded with my nmae and required ID, and the minute I hit $10,0001 , the IR S gets a letter to watch me for m*ney l*undering? 'Not' for reporting gambling income, but for possible "mon*y l *undering.
And all of these systems are run by beauracrats, some morons, some not; 'just doing their jobs'. The system is answerable to no one. It is much as dealing with a lunatic................
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--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail - "Orwellian future"
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 2:00 PM
I just wonder how they link all this information to a
person. It has to be
through something you do voluntarily, like use a credit
card, or a store
card. or a cell phone. If I didn't want someone knowing
what I'm doing, I'd
pay cash and not give my name. Maybe loss of privacy is the
price of using
cell phones, credit cards, airplanes etc...all are a
choice.
Lynn Wigglesworth
----- Original Message ----- From: "bob ford" <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail -
"Orwellian future"
> Yes, they store the info, and it is already being
used. I know you don't
> believe in using credit cards, but the items you
purchas using your store
> (BiLo) card is connected to your credit card if you
have ever used your
> crwedit card together with that card, even once. If
you buy a lot of
> booze, it can negatively affect your credit, right
now. If you use you CC
> to gamble, buy lots of porn, other vice type
activities will immediately
> affect your credit. Not all of us are churchmarms and
it isn't anyone's
> damn business. I don't do those things myself,
but if I wanted to , why
> should it be anyone's business, but mine.
>
> If you buy cigarettes, alot of booze and ice cream, I
have read that
> comapnies with the help of insurance companies can
ferret out that
> information when determining your candidacy for a job
or you apllication
> for health or life insurance. My own insurance agent,
when I started
> smoking again (before I quit this last time) told me
to always buy my
> cigarettes with cash, and never to use a store card,
so there would be no
> record of the cigarette purchases (he knew I was
planning to quit again).
>
> If someone sues you, their lawyer can ask for almost
any kind of records,
> no matter how trivial they appear. They can also ask
for your spouses
> records. It is not funny when it happens to you. It
can be used just to
> bully and harass you ................bobford
>
>
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>
> --- On Sun, 11/30/08, Lynn Wigglesworth
<lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Lynn Wigglesworth
<lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail -
"Orwellian future"
>> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
>> Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 1:36 PM
>> > Maybe you will be lucky, and it will never
happen to
>> you. With the data
>> > being collected they can subpoena your d*mn
life.
>> Everything is recorded.
>> > If 'they' don't care about my
data, why do
>> they then harvest and record my
>> > data for perpetuity?
>> >
>> >
>> Do they store all this info? I can understand why
they need
>> the info
>> connected to my employment (since I'm
self-employed,
>> they only know what I
>> tell them...they don't even have little
check-off boxes
>> for half of what I
>> do) and SS number, or my Drivers' License.What
else do
>> they track? Do they
>> tap into my BiLo Wildcard and know that I eat
oatmeal for
>> breakfast? It's
>> hard to imagine that there is some central
database
>> somewhere that cares
>> about the minutiae of my life. The important
things in my
>> life, no one knows
>> but me.
>>
>> Lynn Wigglesworth
>> Tioga Co. PA
>>
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