Dear Rolf,
You did not answer the following question about which is perfective and which is
imperfective in the following texts:
2Chr 20:20 uve-tset-am `amad Yhoshafat vayyomer . . .
and while they were going out (to the wilderness) Yoshafat
took a stand and said . . .
2 Samuel 20:11 and 12 is a similar use of `amad, and Rolf will
be happy that these are a 'suffix-TAM' verb.
2 Ki 2:7 fifty prophets halxu vayya`amdu went and stood from
afar and the two of them `amdu stood/stopped at the Jordan.
How is "amad used as perfective and/or imperfective in the above texts in
context?
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rolf Furuli" <furuli AT online.no>
To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] questions, reliable evidence, 'stand' and 'said'
Dear Randall,> >the original question and spins away.
For the record: I would like to emphasize that it is not my
responsibility that this thread has stopped but yours. Participants
in a discussion can define basic concepts differently, but a basic
requirement for a meaningful discussion is that all parts give their
definitions. You have not wanted to give your definition of the
imperfective aspect and you have not wanted to answer my questions
regarding your definition of the perfective aspect that I found to be
unclear. Last year we had a similar situation on b-greek, when you
also did not want to give your definition and the thread stopped. I
do not understand your reasons, but it is of course your right to
keep your definitions for yourself. If you change your mind, the
thread can continue.
Best regards,
Rolf Furuli
University of Oslo
>Thank you for your response, and there are many interesting
>texts worthy of discussion, and even some questionable
>English translations, but it doesn't not deal with
>3:19 PM
>>>So, both in
>both the state expressed by the participle and by
>the WAYYIQTOL R intersects E after the beginning
>and before the end. So how can this WAYYIQTOL be
>perfective?>>
>
>You, not me, claimed that this Gen 41 cannot be
>perfective. So you need to explain how it is different from
>perfective `amad examples that look similar.
>See the original post in this thread.
>
>How can, e.g., 2Chr 20:20, 2 Samuel 20:11, and 12,
>2 Ki 2:7 be perfective, but Gen 41 cannot be perfective?
>
>Then we can deal with vayyomer.
>
>braxot
Randall
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