...Shoshanna, I am happy to discuss here only what the written TEXT of the Torah says. But if we are going to leave out what is outside this text, except for purely linguistic discussions, then we have to avoid considering what the Oral Torah (which by definition is not the TEXT of the Torah) as well as the New Testament has to say about it.
At least this is what the TEXT of the Torah says, whether you want to acknowledge that G-d wrote it or not - B-Hebrew list - but that is not my problem.
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