>" [...] all the letters which are both Hebrew shin and Aramaic shin,
> are sin in Arabic. [...] "
The above statement is wrong.
Compare biblical Hebrew "ox" or "two" SHOR, SHNAYIM with Arabic
non-voiced letter "tha" . The equivalents of the two examples are " thaur"
and "ithnein". Im many cases the Hebrew Shin reflects the proto-Semitic Tha.
Uri
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On 9/18/05, Uri Hurwitz wrote:
> Re:
>=20
> >" [...] all the letters which are both Hebrew shin and Aramaic shin,
> > are sin in Arabic. [...] "
>=20
> The above statement is wrong.
>=20
> Compare biblical Hebrew "ox" or "two" SHOR, SHNAYIM with=20
> Arabic non-voiced letter "tha" . The equivalents of the two examples=20
> are " thaur" and "ithnein". Im many cases the Hebrew Shin reflects the
> proto-Semitic Tha.
These roots don't have an Aramaic -$- in the root, but rather an Aramaic=20
-t-. Note the above word "both." I think it was clearer in context where
I contrasted the two (Hebrew $/Aramaic t, vs Hebrew $/Aramaic $).
Yitzhak Sapir
[b-hebrew] Hebrew letter Shin,
Uri Hurwitz, 09/18/2005