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  • From: Vlad Glagolev <stealth AT tiberian.ru>
  • To: sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] SMTP server ideas
  • Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 15:59:55 +0300

On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 12:37:12 +0100
Thomas Orgis <thomas-forum AT orgis.org> wrote:

> Am Sun, 8 Feb 2015 13:55:05 +0300
> schrieb Vlad Glagolev <stealth AT tiberian.ru>:
>
> > I'm sure some of us would like to properly *send* from our
> > @sourcemage.org email address, not only receive to it. I suppose it's
> > not a big deal to set up a simple SMTP-auth with correct SPF and DKIM?
> > Some of our devs asked me about it recently.
>
> Hm, it wouldn't hurt. It's not the most pressing issue for me, though.
> The alias works for "How do I contact developer x? Ah,
> x AT sourcemage.org." Sending with this address obviously doesn't work in
> a world with DKIM unless we implement what you suggest.
>
> > Additionally, this would level down our "spam" status a lot. Because
> > we're like in 2000 in what is related to email.
>
> What do you mean with spam status? Stuff sent from @sourcemage.org
> being considered spam?

yep

>
> > Then we can use it on our developers[0] page to not publish raw
> > addresses for happy spam-bots.
>
> I must admit that I really don't care for that anymore. An address is
> there so that people can find a way contact people. Obscuring the
> display of the address doesn't help there. And with the spam,
> personally, I do receive my lot of daily spam, but it doesn't bother me
> much. Bogofilter really does a nice job, perhaps helped by the fact
> that I have multiple addresses. I only have to check the few mails
> being but into the "maybe spam" folder.
>
> I consider it a vain and pointless attempt to protect an actively used
> public mail address from the world. As long as it's no targeted DoS
> attack, spam is just the normal background noise for me. I can tune it
> out mentally, but I will not be able to remove it from existence.

Well, yeah. It's nice to have @sourcemage.org alias to train your
spam-filter :-). But I'd like to keep my mailbox clean.

And if there's a way to protect it from spam -- it should be done[0].

But primary reason I'd like to have a working SMTP-server is to keep
personal email addresses hidden from the rest of the world for those
who care.

>
> Are you folks really bothered by spam, personally? Even my mom learned
> not to react to dubious business offers or sudden confessions of love
> from unknown people from (sorry, Vlad;-) Russia.
>
>
> Alrighty then,
>
> Thomas
>
> PS: It might truly be worse for folks unfortunate enough to have
> English as primary language, but since by far most of my proper mails
> are in fact written in English, that should not give Bogofilter an easy
> advantage.

[0] http://csarven.ca/hiding-email-addresses

--
Vlad Glagolev <stealth AT tiberian.ru>

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