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  • From: Peter Schneider-Kamp <peter AT schneider-kamp.de>
  • To: eric AT sandall.us
  • Cc: Source Mage Discuss <sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] Mozilla 1.1 is out (but not for us!)
  • Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:25:15 +0200

Eric Sandall wrote:
But yet again, the binaries are release _before_ the source code...what
gives with these Mozilla developers? They have to do extra work to create
the binaries, so why not release the source ASAP, and not after doing
extra work on the binaries?

I've taken this question to #mozilla and this is how it went
(paraphrased from memory and shortened - didn't keep the original log):

nowonder # where is the source for 1.1?
moz-developer1 # in the cvs
nowonder # okay, but why is it not available as a tarball?
moz-developer1 # who would need that?
nowonder # people who built their mozillas from source.
moz-developer1 # somebody really does that?
moz-developer1 # if they can built from source they clearly have enough
time...
nowonder # yes, e.g. users of source-based distributions
nowonder # like source mage, gentoo, lunar penguin ...
moz-developer1 # well, maybe they shouldn't be using these distros
nowonder # but where is the problem to put up the source
the same time as the binaries?
moz-developer2 # well, you can use cvs
moz-developer2 # cvs -d[CVSROOT of mozilla] -z3 co ...
nowonder # thanks moz-developer2 -- i know that part well enough.
moz-developer2 # maybe you can't ...
nowonder # yes, we can
nowonder # isn't using cvs a waste of bandwidth?
moz-developer1 # but the only reason for the binary releases is that
we get feedback with talkback
nowonder # can't I compile it with talkback enabled?
moz-developer2 # impossible
moz-developer1 # that's not so much impossible as illegal
moz-developer1 # you need a license for talback
moz-developer1 wonders whether nowonder realizes that talkback is
from nowonder
nowonder # okay, so we'll have to use cvs

Executive Summary: they want talkback feedback whatever the cost

Grrr,
Peter
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