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  • From: Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
  • To: Tim <t.shanks@ymail.com>
  • Cc: DONKA RADEVA <donnybg@yahoo.com>, Permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>, europeanpermaculturenetwork <europeanpermaculturenetwork@googlegroups.com>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] PhD in Permaculture Economics..NEW SCHOOL ?
  • Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 08:39:38 +1300

Hi guys..here is another initiative that could be linked in some way

http://neweconomyforum.org/manifesto/

Steve Hart

On 9 February 2017 at 10:15, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Tim..which idea do you support ? The development formation of a new
> school ? I do too, absolutely !
>
> However fraught with dangers of diversion and infiltration it may be, we
> still need to develop it. As a piece of black humour we could have the very
> first meeting / conference at a facility in Switzerland called Mont
> Pelerin. I assume you are familiar with The Mont Pelerin Society" its
> beginning, evolution and history ?
>
> https://www.montpelerin.org/
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_P%C3%A8lerin
>
> Or we could invite it in association with IPC13 in India,
> http://ipcindia2017.org/
>
> Hear from you soon to further develop the idea
>
> Steve Hart
>
> On 3 February 2017 at 20:16, Tim <t.shanks@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> Sounds like a very interesting idea which I fully support.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On 25/01/2017 03:11, Steve Hart wrote:
>>
>> Hi Donny..an interesting paper which opens the exploration. Perhaps the
>> question goes back to the development of the world of Economics. Developed
>> from Rothschilds circa 14th century, pursuit of building the industry of
>> usery and slavery to maintain usery. Today the entire world are still
>> slaves to this economic policy which controls every aspect of todays
>> world. We have been conditioned to it through generations. Perhaps 1%
>> live as the kings of the slavery. It has been specifically designed this
>> way for that purpose. The only way we will evolve is to redesign the usery
>> / consumerist / growth / entropic paradigm or policy. It must change to
>> conservation / fair share / ecological sustainability. Perhaps your "New
>> Agriculturalists" sub-consciously seek the new paradigm and are very slowly
>> emerging into it. There is also a warm-fuzzy growth in "Commons" and
>> "Peasantry" perhaps through similar sub-conscious fervour. None of which
>> comes from a planned or designed framework or school. This book is one of a
>> new pattern that begins working in this area
>>
>> "Growing A New Economy: Beyond Crisis Capitalism & Environmental
>> Destruction
>> ​"​
>>
>> Roar Bjonnes and Caroline Hargreaves
>>
>> InnerWorld Publications San Germán, Puerto Rico www.innerworldpublication
>> s.com
>>
>>
>> But we still have a long way to go. Perhaps we could open a new school to
>> evolve it further I'm sure Tim Shanks would support such.
>>
>>
>> Keep me posted on your next layer of papers
>>
>>
>> Warm regards
>>
>>
>> Steve Hart
>>
>> On 24 January 2017 at 11:35, DONKA RADEVA <donnybg@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Steve,
>>>
>>> I'm just at the end, have less than 2 weeks to deliver it in my
>>> department and too much work now.
>>> I'm ready with the research results and about to publish some of them
>>> but still in Bulgarian language. Later on will do this in English.
>>> I'm attaching one of my articles /in collaboration/ in English,
>>> unpublished yet, and still on the theoretical part of the research and it
>>> is around looking for an economic thought.
>>>
>>> Will let you know more in details later on, when less hectic around all
>>> of these. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Donka
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 12:22 AM, Steve Hart <
>>> stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Donny..howz the PhD going ? what stage are you at ? perhaps time to
>>> release a few snippets on this network. Do not hesitate to ask for any
>>> material through this network. Did you find any models you could use ? And
>>> we await your arrival in NZ..Steve
>>>
>>> On 24 January 2017 at 10:57, DONKA RADEVA via permaculture <
>>> permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Amazing project, Steve! Keep hard working and have much luck!
>>> Best wishes to Martina and kids!
>>> Donka
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 23, 2017 5:38 AM, Lawrence London <
>>> lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Steve Hart <
>>> stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > 13 acres...river alluvial...just spent 60 hrs on the 14 ton digger
>>> doing
>>> > flood retention ponds and swales and flloodways. I'm presently looking
>>> at a
>>> >
>>>
>>> That is a great plan. I hope it all goes together well. I did something
>>> similar with a large farm tractor and many implements and a medium sized
>>> skid loader: as you said, retention ponds (3), swales/dams/berms/terraces
>>> and the floodways directed at the ponds; excess rainfall carefully
>>> channeled into the ponds from wherever on the property.it originates. I
>>> will post some pix to illustrate the functionality of the overall system.
>>>
>>> small flood channel that meanders through the property to design a
>>> > temperate zone chanampa...or real aquaponic system.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Will there be eels in the chinampas? There is a big market for eels in
>>> Japan.
>>>
>>> I would really like to do this also but my soil ios too permeable to hold
>>> water long enough to support the garden component. I am lucky to keep
>>> water
>>> in the retention ponds.
>>>
>>>
>>> > Put a few Sth Devon
>>> > Bulls on to process pasture, manure one paddock, chooks have started
>>> White
>>> > Orpingtons. Have ordered a range of trees for next planting season
>>> > including 800 apple pear plum and 200 avocado.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Wonderful!
>>>
>>>
>>> > My 4 yr old daughter
>>> > conducted her first inpromtu garden tour the other day for a visitor
>>> and
>>> > with her 2 yr old sister put together a salad for lunch consisting of
>>> 40
>>> > different species.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Now that is living right. Proper salads, the true staff of life! I plan
>>> on
>>> a big salad and greens garden this coming Spring
>>> and hopefully plenty of corn, tomatoes, peppers and onions.
>>>
>>>
>>> > Also in the middle of converting an old cow shed /
>>> > shearing shed into a dwelling..all off grid....a shed it will remain
>>> for
>>> > authorities to dwell on...so its all go ...just printed off an AO size
>>> >
>>>
>>> Right.
>>>
>>>
>>> > survey plan to draw up the design for presentation purposes.
>>> >
>>>
>>> I would like to see that.
>>>
>>>
>>> > We will be
>>> > reincarnating the original Permaculture Institute of NZ soon and may
>>> seek
>>> > collaboration with Larry n Scott et al for a branch of their Academy.
>>> But,
>>> > there is only 36 hrs in a day....all good..Steve Hart
>>> >
>>>
>>> That must be done and the sooner the better. You have my recommendation.
>>>
>>> Onward!
>>>
>>> LL
>>>
>>> --
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>>> lfljvenaura@gmail.com
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>>> --
>>> Kia ora Ehoa
>>>
>>> [image: Picture]
>>> *Steve Hart*
>>> *Ecology Architect*
>>> *Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
>>> Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
>>> and Systems Ecology.​*
>>> Skype: tipenemanawa
>>> Phone: +64 220 75 62 11
>>>
>>> Permaculture Global Design:
>>> www.permacultureglobaldesign.org
>>>
>>> The Permaculture International College
>>> www.permaculturecollege.eu
>>> https://permaculturecollege.academia.edu/SteveHart
>>>
>>> GAPPS The Global Alliance for Permaculture Partnerships and Solutions.
>>> www.permaculturepartnerships.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kia ora Ehoa
>>
>> [image: Picture]
>> *Steve Hart*
>> *Ecology Architect*
>> *Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
>> Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
>> and Systems Ecology.​*
>> Skype: tipenemanawa
>> Phone: +64 220 75 62 11
>>
>> Permaculture Global Design:
>> www.permacultureglobaldesign.org
>>
>> The Permaculture International College
>> www.permaculturecollege.eu
>> https://permaculturecollege.academia.edu/SteveHart
>>
>> GAPPS The Global Alliance for Permaculture Partnerships and Solutions.
>> www.permaculturepartnerships.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Kia ora Ehoa
>
> [image: Picture]
> *Steve Hart*
> *Ecology Architect*
> *Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
> Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
> and Systems Ecology.​*
> Skype: tipenemanawa
> Phone: +64 220 75 62 11
>
> Permaculture Global Design:
> www.permacultureglobaldesign.org
>
> The Permaculture International College
> www.permaculturecollege.eu
> https://permaculturecollege.academia.edu/SteveHart
>
> GAPPS The Global Alliance for Permaculture Partnerships and Solutions.
> www.permaculturepartnerships.com
>
>


--
Kia ora Ehoa

[image: Picture]
*Steve Hart*
*Ecology Architect*
*Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
and Systems Ecology.​*
Skype: tipenemanawa
Phone: +64 220 75 62 11

Permaculture Global Design:
www.permacultureglobaldesign.org

The Permaculture International College
www.permaculturecollege.eu
https://permaculturecollege.academia.edu/SteveHart

GAPPS The Global Alliance for Permaculture Partnerships and Solutions.
www.permaculturepartnerships.com




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