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  • From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: [permaculture] Fwd: [SANET-MG] Claim the Sky petition
  • Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 15:27:12 -0400

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From: Jonathan Latham <jrlatham@bioscienceresource.org>
Date: Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [SANET-MG] Claim the Sky petition
To: SANET-MG@lists.ifas.ufl.edu


Hi Juan
I would say you have to organise a social movement before you spend time
trying to persuade politicians.
To organise a social movement you need to have coherent ideas that meet the
needs of large numbers of people without oppressing others.
The food movement is becoming such a movement.
It will synergise with the natural health movement, which is very powerful
and the labour and social justice movements and the climate movement. The
"left" is moribund and so is the old "environment movement".
Of these, the climate movement is especially in need of help. It is focused
on symptoms (atmospheric CO2) and infrastructure (KeystoneXL and other
pipelines, divestment from infrastructure, and confronting the power
industry) and not on the basic causes (ie demand for energy). Its misfocus
comes from not wishing to challenge the real culprits (too difficult) and
because it is funded top-down by wealthy individuals-who dont really want
anything to change (let me guess). All of these are recipes for failure (in
contrast you will notice the food movement is grassroots, almost entirely).
What the climate people should focus on is demand (and especially in
agriculture). It is ironic that without even trying the food movement has
done more to avert climate change (by supporting local food, agroecology
and organics) than the climate movement itself ever has. The climate
movement is all but ignoring agriculture. Mostly they are city types is
also part of the reason.
Eventually, the climate movement will be folded into the food movement
because the ordinary people in it will see that food and agriculture are
the keys. They are the main contributors to CO2 and methane AND the
opportunity to sequester carbon in the soil.
The other problem for the climate movement is that it is in a sense living
a lie. the kyoto protocol negotiations assume , at a basic level, that
solving climate change is expensive. The economic analyses say otherwise,
however. So that leaves the question: why negotiate? If there is no
downside to solving the problem each country can solve it for themselves!
So, the negotiations (soon to be in Paris) are a pretense and a lie. The
focus of all these green groups onthose negotiations is absurd and
disturbing and actually counterproductive because it suggests (to the
public) that solving global warming is hard and expensive.
So my advice, following from this analysis, is do whatever you can to help
the food movement, focussing on the long term. My personal strategy is to
write and inform others, with our website, by syndicating about the
situation, but each of us has different inclinations and skills.
yours sincerely
Jonathan
here it is:
www.independentsciencenews.org

On May 20, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Juan Alvez wrote:

> Jonathan,
>
> You may be right in your assertions but, what would be a constructive
alternative to pubic petitions?
>
> --J
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