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  • From: HeenanDoherty <heenandoherty@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] French sperm count down by one third
  • Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 07:35:38 +1100

John would you mind if I put this on FB? I just read some research about
Norweigan Seamans infertility due to liquid soap.

Yours & Growing,

Lisa Heenan & Darren Doherty

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On 09/12/2012, at 7:01 AM, "John D'hondt" <dhondt@eircom.net> wrote:

> Many chemicals penetrate the skin extremely fast Dieter. One of the best
> known for that is DMSO which is quite a useful painkiller topically
> applied.
> But anyway, mix one drop of mint oil in with some DMSO and put a drop on
> the
> ground. Stand in it with your bare foot and you will taste the mint in your
> mouth in a few seconds.
>
> In another life I worked in laboratories and sometimes with radioactive
> labeled biochemical molecules. You could work in a laminar flow and with
> double gloves on and when you went for a pee half an hour later you could
> measure the radioactivity in your urine which was not at all good since we
> thought we had taken every possible safety precaution.
>
> Triclosan does penetrate the skin somewhat. Not a lot or you would
> immediately die or turn infertile at the least. But the effect builds up
> with repeated use.
> Not only that but you can smell the triclosan when you apply the pump. This
> can only mean that it also gets in your lungs and from there into your
> blood
> stream is a logical step. Again the amounts and effects are small but it
> builds up over time.
> And then people who use this soap regularly will wash their hands with it
> before a meal. Bingo.
>
> To me there is a huge difference between cleanliness and hygiene. Hygiene
> is
> to do with health and for me that means having large numbers of good
> bacteria present everywhere. (healthy ecology) In recent years doctors have
> used fecal transfers to cure diseases thought incurable such as autism. Not
> often, because the thought of such an act sickens most people. Also because
> it is cheap and brings no money to big pharma. It works better than
> anything
> else.
>
> Cleanliness to me is a ritual, almost religious concept and aims for
> sterility and that often has very bad effects. For example, one can pick up
> a super lethal bug most easily in hospitals that aim to be sterile
> environments with plenty of triclosan being used.
>
> These last two paragraphs to explain why I would not touch liquid soap with
> a ten foot pole.
>
> john
>
>>> They could have but almost all liquid soaps contain
>>> Triclosan.
>>
>> John, what I don't understand is how soap applied to the outside of the
>> body can cause infertility. Is it that the active substances penetrate
>> the skin?
>>
>> Dieter
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