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  • From: "Nicholas Roberts, Permaculture.coop" <permaculturecoop@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] permaculture Digest, Vol 91, Issue 57
  • Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 10:51:45 -0700

>
> 1. "Create a market for "ecological services" to landowners who
> use sustainable land management practices" - enter the
> permaculture consultant and designer (Lawrence F. London, Jr.)
>
> "Create a market for "ecological services" to landowners who use
> sustainable land management practices" - enter the permaculture
> consultant and designer.
>

ecosystems services marketplaces are the domain of financiers and the state

imho financialisation of mortgages was a disaster, people lost their homes
and it nearly destroyed the world economy

financialisation of ecosystems services, probably the first market will be
in Carbon, will not only destroy farms but also possibly the planet

I do imagine possible social finance, credit unions for ecosystem services

but the main advocates, players in ecosystems services, with its incredibly
complicated financialisation and modelling are specialist consultants,
finance houses and management groups, behind them are finance houses and the
state see www.CarbonFinance.org

imagine the contractual arrangements associated with providing ecosystems
services brokered by a big bank ?

do you really think you'd have a chance ?

it will make the sub-prime mortgage bubble look like a walk in the park

http://www.fs.fed.us/ecosystemservices/

do you really want the Feds, the banks, the financial markets controlling
the ecosystems on your farm ?

look what Monsanto does to seeds, imagine what Citibank will do to
ecosystems ?

my sense is this will further drive people "off grid" and those that engage
- well - better pool resources to handle the small print, the legal fees,
the market manipulation etc

http://www.ecosystemmarketplace.com/


some very convincing arguments are presented by UK think-tank Cornerhouse,
for instance see the section on Forestry with its focus on Carbon Markets,
REDD etc

http://www.thecornerhouse.org.uk/resources/results/taxonomy:24




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